[ARealMothersSonForever]

Take that child to some environment that is safe and controlled enough that you can just let them run wild

This supports wildcats assertion that security is tantamount. And even Americans are now conditioned to require safety and security. If one is to conduct the freedom experiment with the two year old put into the wilderness with all of its danger and potential; then one could draw more solid conclusions. IMHO

[InterceptPoint]

This supports wildcats assertion that security is tantamount. And even Americans are now conditioned to require safety and security. If one is to conduct the freedom experiment with the two year old put into the wilderness with all of its danger and potential; then one could draw more solid conclusions. IMHO

Of course security is tantamount but so what? That's true for any living thing.

My point was that freedom is a natural desire of human beings. If it is less important than security that doesn't change the argument. Given the choice human beings select the maximum freedom given adequate security. Right now the worlds best security is being provided by the worlds strongest Democracy: The United States of America. That is not a coincidence, it is cause and effect. Maximize freedom and you maximize security.