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To: Quix

well, the only thing I disagree with in the whole war on terror is the proposition that people long for freedom. I think the average ignorant putz longs for security. A Southern congressman once phrased it well, "loose shoes; tight...etc. We Americans are unique not because of genetics or faith but rather because we were able to escape the past. Coming to this continent and starting anew had that effect. the average Croat , while still a toddler is learning about when his greatgreatgreatgreatgreat grandfather was slighted by some family one town over....The Euros , Islamics, RUSSIANS have never culturally experienced a new wide open possibility and so they don't understand us. Give an old Russian the idea of freedom and he immediately equates it with a guaranteed government pension not the ability to strike out on his own. this is the real damage that the Dems have done to the USA, for there is a growing segment in this country that expects the Gov to tell them what to do. FREEDOM is an aberation in human history and we may be underestimating how RARE it is


129 posted on 07/29/2006 6:23:42 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (level headed analyst here...armed to the teeth)
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To: wildcatf4f3

Give an old Russian the idea of freedom and he immediately equates it with a guaranteed government pension not the ability to strike out on his own. this is the real damage that the Dems have done to the USA, for there is a growing segment in this country that expects the Gov to tell them what to do. FREEDOM is an aberation in human history and we may be underestimating how RARE it is
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All very well put. I agree.


130 posted on 07/29/2006 6:29:41 AM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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To: wildcatf4f3
FREEDOM is an aberation in human history and we may be underestimating how RARE it is

I couldn't disagree with you more. The desire for freedom is built into us.

Here is an experiment you may be able to run. Take a two year old who total life experience has been one where he/she is taken care of, watched, controlled, never given the freedom to do what they really want. That is, a typical two year old. Take that child to some environment that is safe and controlled enough that you can just let them run wild, do what they want, go where they want to go. Just follow them around and see what they do when they taste FREEDOM. You cannot watch something like this without knowing with absolute certainty that freedom is an inherent desire of the human species.

131 posted on 07/29/2006 6:31:48 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: wildcatf4f3
Israel crisis is part of broader struggle: President Bush

Reuters Saturday, July 29, 2006 21:00 IST

WASHINGTON: US President George W Bush on Saturday cast the Lebanon war as part of a broader struggle against terrorism and said a strategy to end the violence there must address the threat posed by Hizbollah. Amid mounting concern over civilian casualties in the fighting between Israel and Hizbollah guerrillas, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was headed to Israel to discuss the terms of a proposal for a UN Security Council resolution calling for a negotiated truce.
348 posted on 07/29/2006 11:19:31 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Down with "Proportionality" ...YES to Israel, NO to terrorism)...(((AM YISRAEL CHAI!)))
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