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7/29 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 7/29/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 07/28/2006 11:26:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Israeli soldiers rest at an artillery position in northern Israel, next to the Lebanese border, Friday July 28, 2006.

Updates

IDF soldier seriously injured in Bint Jbeil (09:14 , 07.29.06)

IDF hits over 60 Hizbullah targets (09:11 , 07.29.06)

Solana confident UN will push for international force in Southern Lebanon (08:28 , 07.29.06)

Annan plans meeting for potential contributors to international force for Lebanon (07:58 , 07.29.06)

Japan ground troops to mark official end to Iraq mission (07:23 , 07.29.06)

Bint Jbeil battle: 6 Soldiers lightly to moderately injured (05:28 , 07.29.06)

Moscow pushes Iran to respond to incentives deal (05:10 , 07.29.06)

Canada winding down Lebanon evacuation (05:08 , 07.29.06)

Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades group says killed Yakir settler (05:06 , 07.29.06)

Bush apologizes to Blair over failure to declare planes carried missiles for Israel (05:02 , 07.29.06)

IAF strikes 60 targets in Lebanon (04:58 , 07.29.06)

1 dead, 5 hurt in Seattle Jewish center shooting


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; breaking; gwot; hizballah; iaf; idf; israel; middleeast
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To: Fitzcarraldo

If the Israeli objective is to stop the missiles they are failing miserably. What is the strategy - let Hizbullah fire their entire arsenal off then they will have none left - mission accomplished. Rocket fire could be very easily stemmed if Israel had just invaded and controlled southern lebanon. The IAF and IDF arty just take too long to respond, these guys shoot and scoot. A ton of boots on the ground would a) refocus Hizbullah's attention b) allow the IDF to cordon and seal off launch areas.


181 posted on 07/29/2006 8:13:04 AM PDT by jhp
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To: SE Mom

I wouldn't be surprised to find out in years to come about how many heated arguments there have been behind the scenes in Israel.


182 posted on 07/29/2006 8:14:34 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I hate the thought of what would have happened during WWII if we had had modern communications technology....

Gives ya the shivers, doesn't it?

183 posted on 07/29/2006 8:14:40 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Teufelhunde

If elastic loaves doesn't sound gay... I don't know what does.


184 posted on 07/29/2006 8:14:41 AM PDT by AliVeritas (How do you talk to animals that blow up their own children... and yours?)
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To: SE Mom

IF (a big if) the Israel's plan is to go town to town and supress it like they've supresseed Bent Jbail then i am totally in favor of the operation. But at this pace it would take months to quell southern lebanon but months Israel hath not.


185 posted on 07/29/2006 8:16:48 AM PDT by jhp
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To: Fitzcarraldo
This morning I woke up and realized that Israel is pursuing a very limited objective. Stop the missiles.

The only problem with that is they are not stopping the rockets.I also think that Rice is going to put a lot of pressure on Israel to have a cease fire.

186 posted on 07/29/2006 8:19:25 AM PDT by Lil Flower ("Without Love, deeds, even the most brilliant, count as nothing." St. Therese of Lisieux)
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To: SE Mom

What did he say? He's been quiet.


187 posted on 07/29/2006 8:20:58 AM PDT by AliVeritas (How do you talk to animals that blow up their own children... and yours?)
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To: All

Sure everyone knows this already.

Australia: Lebanon Protesters Mob PM
http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=270862

Protesters attack PM's car after march
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/PMs-car-attacked-after-Mideast-speech/2006/07/29/1153816418819.html


188 posted on 07/29/2006 8:23:45 AM PDT by AliVeritas (How do you talk to animals that blow up their own children... and yours?)
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To: jhp

"According to the officer, the fact that Hizbullah is firing rockets mainly from the area between the Litani and Zahrani rivers is a sign of distress."

This is a quote from a Haaretz article regarding the pull out from Bent Jbail and is also probably a lie.

If you look at the areas targeted today they are primarily northern Israeli towns being hit with 12 mile range Kaytushas. Kaytushas fired from bwtn the Litani and Zahrani would land in southern lebanon. Unless someone starts reporting those Israeli towns are being hit with the longer range rockets that quote cannot be true


189 posted on 07/29/2006 8:24:50 AM PDT by jhp
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To: SE Mom

I like that. Thanks.


190 posted on 07/29/2006 8:25:10 AM PDT by AliVeritas (How do you talk to animals that blow up their own children... and yours?)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Or UN peacekeepers on the shores of Normandy.


191 posted on 07/29/2006 8:25:47 AM PDT by AliVeritas (How do you talk to animals that blow up their own children... and yours?)
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To: Lil Flower

She knows better than that. That will only happen if Olmert needs someone to get him out. Meanwhile, back at the ranch... they'll target Tel Aviv. They need to finish this.


192 posted on 07/29/2006 8:27:29 AM PDT by AliVeritas (How do you talk to animals that blow up their own children... and yours?)
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To: jhp

18:14 Top IDF officer: Bint Jbail operation was intended to last three days (Haaretz)


193 posted on 07/29/2006 8:28:06 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: jhp

There gets to be a time you have to stop listening to the reporters.

Hard, but its true.


194 posted on 07/29/2006 8:28:53 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

BTW, the Lebanese muslim that shot up the Jewish center in Seattle is "bi-polar".


195 posted on 07/29/2006 8:29:50 AM PDT by AliVeritas (How do you talk to animals that blow up their own children... and yours?)
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To: AliVeritas

So? One fourth of the adults in my family are. We don't go shooting up people. That's no excuse.


196 posted on 07/29/2006 8:31:31 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: All

Saw this posted on another board, i didn't see the interview with Bibi so i really can't comment

"Netanyahou was just on Fox. You have to get way down between the lines, and into the body language, but he's starting to get pissed at Olmert."

Did anyone else get this read on Bibi, if so Israel is in deep sticky dodo


197 posted on 07/29/2006 8:33:02 AM PDT by jhp
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To: All

United Nations makes demands of Israel and remains useless

http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2006/07/united_nations_.html


198 posted on 07/29/2006 8:33:26 AM PDT by AliVeritas (How do you talk to animals that blow up their own children... and yours?)
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To: mathluv

" The new documentary "Obsession" shows how brainwashed the children are."

Just yesterday, "Obsession" was mentioned on my local talk radio. Thanks for the reminder. I'd really like to see it.


199 posted on 07/29/2006 8:33:47 AM PDT by Pepper777
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To: jhp
You do realize your strategy was tired by the Russians in Afghanistan and the Nazis in East Europe. It simply doesn't work.

Trying to apply a conventional hammer to an asymmetrical problem has gotten it butt handed it every time it been tired. All the terrorists do in response to you blitzkrieg attack, that they know they cannot beat, is hide in the civilian undergrowth or fade back to their sanctuary zones while bleeding the attack force with mine warfare, ambushes and snipers.

This type of war is like pushing on an air mattress. Push hard and the mattress dents and billows away from where it is pushed. Then when the arm gets tired and cannot continue to push at that spot anymore and is removed, the mattress simply resumes its original shape.

This "hurry up and smash everything" doctrine is utterly ridiculous in dealing with a guerrilla war threat. The Terrorists simply get out of the way until your offensive is over then slide right back when you have to redeploy.

The reason you "don't see it", I think, is you simply don't WANT to deal with reality that your pet theories on this are simply unworkable nonsense. I suspect you have a partisan political beef with the Olmert sympathizers which is why you are so hyper critical of anything they are doing. It appears you are simply insisting on riding your pet dogma down in flames rather then consider any alternative strategies.

200 posted on 07/29/2006 8:35:48 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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