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Court Blocks Feds on Congressman's Files (Democratic Rep. William Jefferson)
Breitbart ^ | 7-28-06 | Toni Locy

Posted on 07/28/2006 2:05:05 PM PDT by STARWISE

A federal appeals court on Friday barred the Justice Department from reviewing evidence seized from a Louisiana congressman's office during an unprecedented FBI raid on his Capitol Hill office in May.

A three-judge panel ordered a federal trial judge to ensure that Democratic Rep. William Jefferson be given copies of seized evidence contained on more than a dozen computer hard drives, several floppy disks and two boxes of paper documents.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 109th; corruption; fbi; govwatch; jefferson; ruling; search; williamjefferson
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To: muawiyah
A three-judge panel ordered a federal trial judge to ensure that Democratic Rep. William Jefferson be given copies of seized evidence contained on more than a dozen computer hard drives, several floppy disks and two boxes of paper documents

Anyone know who these three judges are?

101 posted on 10/04/2006 3:38:44 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: mrsmith
Very good Mr. Smith.

I simply go one step further and identify the raid as an attempted coup for which the perpetrators should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, and if that involves the death penalty, be sure to get a Virginia jury.

They're really good about that.

102 posted on 10/04/2006 3:41:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

It's the Judge, Hogan, who was at fault.
The offices can certainly be searched if there is reason to think evidence of crimes is hidden in them, but he treated the privilege merely as other privileges have been treated.

Now he's got to fix his mistake and it's going to take a lot of work by him to do that.


103 posted on 10/04/2006 3:55:20 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: muawiyah
Well as usual your posting is utterly absurd nonsense. Actually try READING the decision. Your claims here are utter and total NONSENSE. They are directly at odds with what was decided here. The Judges split the difference. They are allowing him to present his case why the documents should be disallowed.

THEY DID NOT ORDER THE EVIDENCE BE GIVEN BACK. GET it? YOUR are WRONG. Screaming LOUDER will not change your absurd argument to fact.

YOU did bother to read he gets COPIES not the evidence itself? He then has to go try to explain himself to the Judge? This ruling protect his claim of Congressional privilege it does NOT absolve him NOR establish the Congressional Privilege YOU are trying to claim. Get a grip on reality.

Attempted Coup? Get a grip. Just how much do you drink every day before sitting down and Freeping? That is so utterly divorced from anything remotely resembling factual reality here to draw your sanity into question.

Basically YOU are arguing that ANYTHING a Congress critter does is just fine. That basically Congress critters are above the law. YOU might want to live in such a country NO OTHER Freeper does.

Your claim that a Court cannot order a properly executed search warrant on a Congress Critters office is NOT at all validated by this decision. He gets to try and explain to the Trial Judges why some of these records should NOT be made public or used in his trial. HE DOES NOT get the evidence BACK. Get it?

IT did not validate at ALL your absurd argument that Congress is some sort of privileged sanctuary. TRY real hard to deal with the FACTS one time before posting any more such rabid stupidity to me.

104 posted on 10/04/2006 3:56:54 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: MNJohnnie
It's not over and done with, and as it progresses further into the bowels of the judiciary the further it gets from being considered a simple warranted search and seizure.

You've already had an appeals court rule that your position cannot be supported.

Best bet is for you to simply give up and admit that the Executive can't just waltz in and take stuff from Congress.

105 posted on 10/04/2006 3:59:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mrs smith

Seems people are missing the FACTS here in their hysteria to validate their preconcieved emotions. The Judges did NOT order the Evidence returned to him. They are giving him a chance to make the case WHY he thinks Congressional Privlidge should be involked.

Attempted Coup? That just utter hysteric stupid nonsense. A Court ordered a properly excuted search warrent. The FBI executed that warrent. All the hysteria about Congressional Privlidge is utter hysteric know nothing nonsense. NO ONE is above the law. NO ONE.


106 posted on 10/04/2006 3:59:40 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: mrsmith
It's also the fault of the FBI agents who came up with this ridiculous raid. They apparantly were unable to properly articulate their concerns else the Speaker would have authorized the search (under appropriate controls, and the watchful eye of armed Capitol Hill police).

It's time for the FBI to give up their affirmative action garbage and start hiring people who actually can read, write and analyze ~ not just people who can sound tough. After all, some of them are little different than the sort of folks you'd find in the secret police in any tinpot dictatorship.

So, two things to do ~ clean up the FBI, and put watchdogs on judges as they write warrants for them.

107 posted on 10/04/2006 4:02:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MNJohnnie
Nonsense, no judge has the power to authorize a raid on the precincts of Congress.

Period. End of Story. Go back to Central and Eastern Europe where they get away with that stuff. This is America, and you're welcome to come here but you must respect our customs.

108 posted on 10/04/2006 4:04:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MNJohnnie

Judges David B. Sentelle, Janice Rogers Brown and Thomas B. Griffith.

Quite a distinguished group!


They went along with the House view- that privileged documents must not be reviewed by the DOJ...
Hastert's view.

They rejected the DOJ view that they could look through it all and then decide, with a judge, what was privileged.

They did not take Jefferson's view that he gets to decide what's privileged.

This is a few months old BTW. Further appeals will be heard I'm sure.


109 posted on 10/04/2006 4:10:17 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: muawiyah

My "glee" is at the discomfort at a CRIMINAL as I said. I believe criminals SHOULD NOT be coddeled. I'm sorry I did not bless you with a comment on Cunningham's conviction. Cuningham was punished appropriately for his crimes. But he was a Republican. He was automatically guilty politically according to the DBM.
Its interesting, that the representive from LA, is simply given a pass because of his skin color. (?) Or is it the court one picks????
The Second Amendment is still alive!


110 posted on 10/04/2006 4:13:32 PM PDT by jcparks (LFOD)
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To: muawiyah
Screaming your ignorant emotion based feelings as fact does NOT make them facts. GET a grip on reality. Your claims here are absurd NONSENSE. That is not at all what this Decision says. Try to actually discuss the FACTS here or quit wasting our time. The Judges did NOTHING that you are claiming at all. Arrogantly refusing to acknowledge that fact will NOT save your position from defeat.

HE DOES NOT GET THE EVIDENCE BACK. GET IT? IF the Judges had decided to uphold the Privilege YOU claim, they would of ordered the return of everything. THEY DID NOT DO THAT.

That very fact NUKES your entire absurd argument that this decision validates of Congressional Privilege. NO it did not. HE still has to go before a Judge and validate his claim of why some information should be kept private. HIS "privilege" is subject to Review by the Judiciary. DO YOU UNDERSTAND YET? That indicates they did NOT uphold his claim of Congressional Privilege. They REJECTED it. The Court is saying YES, we CAN execute warrants on Congress Critters same as ANY other citizen. However, we understand the dangers and will allow the Congress critter to make his case why some information should not be made public. They REJECTED your "Attempted Coup" argument.

TRY to be an adult and actually deal in the FACTS here. Read the decision instead of just posting such hysterically ignorant nonsense because you lack the mental or emotional maturity to acknowledge you have NO clue what you are talking about. Screaming LOUDER will not change your fictions to facts.

TRY really hard to actually READ the decision instead of hoping if you just keep screaming the lie will become real.

111 posted on 10/04/2006 4:14:46 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: MNJohnnie
You are hollering and screaming like you were in on the raid.

If you were, all the more reason for you to be prosecuted. You have an attitude problem that makes you unsuitible for police work.

112 posted on 10/04/2006 4:25:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
His privilege is subject to Judicial review. NOTHING is ever going to be done to those you accuse of "attempting a coup".

YOUR position on this issue is defeated. Hysterically refusing to deal with the actual facts present here and clinging child like to your emotion based feeling on the issue is absurd. IF you don't like seeing your emotion based opinions shedded don't ping me. I wasn't even on the thread until YOU decided you wanted this fight. YOU do realize this thread started July 28, 2006 right? Not today?

Hmmmm. Well, BillylJeff - too late for shredding.

1 posted on 07/28/2006 4:05:07 PM CDT by STARWISE

113 posted on 10/04/2006 4:34:39 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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