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CA: 6 + 4 = 1 Tenuous Existence
LA Times ^ | 7/28/06 | Sam Quinones

Posted on 07/28/2006 9:21:40 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Kathy in Alaska

LOLOL.. Thanks Kathy!!


41 posted on 07/28/2006 12:06:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: conservativehusker
I'm Speechless!!! 22 years and still can't speak english??

Thanks in part to the education lords that don't allow English immersion in schools

An aside: there is an Italian community in the middle of Monterey, Calif., with people born and raised there that still can't speak English.

the younger the kids, the easier they pick up a language. The 'unfairness' is not in immersion, but lack of it.

I have a Danish friend who married a Utah guy years ago = she moved here while he finished college and a few years into a career - while 3 little girls were born.

Long before they were school age, they were speaking fluent English and Danish. What amazed me was that they kept the two languages separate = never sentences in half one, half the other.

I have a grandson who went to Houston (from New Eng.) at 18. In conjunction with a semester of Spanish in college, he would go the Mexican neighborhoods and immerse himself in conversation with the locals and take side trips to Mexico for the same thing.

As a result, he speaks fluent Spanish (non-Gringo Spanish, his Mexican friends say) = He was deployed to Italy less than a month ago- (Airborne SpecOps) and has been able to pick up Italian so rapidly that he can now converse easily with the people - especially "the young ladies" - which drives his fellow servicemen wild: "How do you DO that!" they say.

42 posted on 07/28/2006 12:25:43 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: NormsRevenge; All
Your tax dollars at work...

I'm glad these people are getting the care and help they need, but honestly!

IMHO, it's past time we re-thought this law about all children born in the U.S. automatically being U.S. citizens...there was a time when it made some sense, but in these days, it's simply ridiculous, not to say a huge burden to other folks who work hard, "play by the rules", and expect their efforts to benefit their own children!

43 posted on 07/28/2006 12:31:35 PM PDT by 88keys
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To: maine-iac7
You're right about English immersion, whatever the "native language" is...all these foreign diplomats and prime ministers, etc. speak English, and we shouldn't expect our own U.S. citizens/residents to?! How will they ever "get ahead" without basic language and writing skills? For that matter, why should they be allowed to vote on anything if they can't read or understand candidate information and ballots in English, which is certainly the principal language for communication in this country?

Same is true if you're a native English-speaker and live in a foreign country...some effort to communicate in the "native tongue" would certainly be expected and required (although maybe not the level of your grandson, who surely must be very gifted at languages, LOL!)!

44 posted on 07/28/2006 12:44:57 PM PDT by 88keys
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey Arnold, THIS is why we're pissed off!


45 posted on 07/28/2006 12:48:41 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (The Minutemen: Doing the Job Bush Won't Do.)
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To: gondramB

The story get worse.. i read the whole thing in the Times(i know but i needed a paper to read) anyway, her sisters also come here but moved to KY for better paying jobs, and became citizens..


46 posted on 07/28/2006 1:30:46 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46

>>The story get worse.. i read the whole thing in the Times(i know but i needed a paper to read) anyway, her sisters also come here but moved to KY for better paying jobs, and became citizens..<<

That would be KY as in Kentucky, not the brand name, hopefully... :)


47 posted on 07/28/2006 1:43:08 PM PDT by gondramB (Named must your fear be before banish it you can.)
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To: gondramB

LOL.....yes as in Kentucky :-)


48 posted on 07/28/2006 1:48:23 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: CBart95; NormsRevenge
...others are quietly admiring your tireless work at advancing an entire agenda of causes ...

You mean like, the Conservative Cause?

Hey, Norm... I think you're busted!

49 posted on 07/28/2006 2:26:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

lol.. I'm not sure,, does that me make me multi-agendal or multi-causal?


50 posted on 07/28/2006 2:31:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: leakinInTheBlueSea

Add foodstamps (which the children should have been eligible for) and subsidized housing to your list.
The equation just looks worse.


51 posted on 07/28/2006 2:33:43 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge

LOL.


52 posted on 07/28/2006 2:36:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: conservativehusker
I'm Speechless!!! 22 years and still can't speak english??

Why should you be speechless? Our president tells us that speaking spanish is really the sign of the "new American".

THE "NEW AMERICAN"
..........<

We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico.

George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.

You can read the speech here.

Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:

In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster

53 posted on 07/28/2006 2:42:24 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Great post. It illustrates the insanity of our Immigration "Policies".


54 posted on 07/28/2006 2:46:06 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: 88keys
why should they be allowed to vote on anything if they can't read or understand candidate information and ballots in English

Which is the very reason the dimRats don't want them speaking English. Then they swallow whatever they are told about the candidates and how to vote.

In the meantime, the pubbies need to get out Spanish language ads and speakers =

Pres. Bush's handsome young Latino nephew in Florida, George P. Bush, was very helpful in last campaigns and aught to be put on the campaign trail again

55 posted on 07/28/2006 3:28:06 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: NormsRevenge; abigail2; Bella_Bru; BenLurkin; Blue Champagne; Bob J; boris; Brad's Gramma; ...

misc ping
SoCal ping


56 posted on 07/28/2006 4:00:03 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: conservativehusker

More disconcerting is the fact that the girls converse mostly in Spanish. All the defenders of this talk of a second generation speaking mostly English. Bull s--t!

We're so saturated that the Tijanization of parts of California allows people to conduct their business in Spanish, never "having" to speak English at all.

While this lady is appreciative, I'm a pretty nice guy too. Folks, won't you fork over $100s of thousands of dollars so I can have a nice life? I really really deserve it. Honest!


57 posted on 07/28/2006 4:07:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm a pretty nice guy too. Folks, won't you fork over $100s of thousands of dollars
so I can have a nice life? I really really deserve it. Honest!

No! ;-)

58 posted on 07/28/2006 7:48:20 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge

Another sympathy piece from a left wing journalism *&$@#


59 posted on 07/28/2006 7:58:13 PM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: calcowgirl

You hateful bigot. LOL


60 posted on 07/28/2006 8:19:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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