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What I Saw in Dearbornistan--Crashing a Muslim extremist rally
Frontpagemagazine/Debbieschlussel.com ^ | 7-28-06 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 07/28/2006 7:11:55 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: SJackson
Glad you posted this. I'm not seeing any bigotry here for what its worth, nor would I really be opposed to any of my fellow citizens showing bigotry to our sworn enemies.

I'm completely biased towards anyone who would harm the US or any of her allies.

To a prior poster:

The broad brush strokes began overlapping years ago. They have now formed a third or forth coat.
141 posted on 07/28/2006 11:24:59 AM PDT by Freemeorkillme (Yes, I love asterisks...errrr.... Astras, that is.)
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To: PDR

You are so F.O.S., I don't no where to begin.


142 posted on 07/28/2006 11:31:16 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: SJackson

She did make one error in her piece. It's Nurse Ratched.


143 posted on 07/28/2006 11:49:18 AM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: PDR
1`. we have established she has posted many negative comments about muslims.

You haven't established that and neither has anyone else. She has posted many negative comments about hate-filled Muslim extremists. If I'm wrong, just give me one anti-Muslim statement in the piece.

I support ordinary Muslims who are not interested in genocide and have defended them here on Free Republic. I don't think you do. By attacking someone for shining much needed light on modern day Nazis you're making all Muslims and their friends look bad.

see my reply to jpl please.

I reread the article and your replies to jpl. I can find no anti-Muslim statements in the article. I can find no examples of any in your replies to jpl. I'm not asking for a research project or extensive citations, just one simple example from this short piece.

What am I missing? I think you must forgive me for concluding that you're dissembling. Why would you take this stance? You're not doing Muslims any favors. It's like attacking an oncologist who gives you the news that you have a malignant tumor. Better to thank him and cooperate in getting rid of the cancer.

144 posted on 07/28/2006 11:56:01 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: dirtboy
Good judgment is not bigotry. If it walks like a duck...

I never hear of any Jews wanting to take over every government on the planet and subscribing to a holy book that tells them to chop off the heads of unbelievers and kill converts. Unlike the muslims, who espouse such beliefs as outlined in their holy book. Sometimes, people actually do deserve what is said about them.
145 posted on 07/28/2006 12:07:43 PM PDT by auntyfemenist (Card carrying conservative, William F. Buckley fan.)
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To: PDR
I've been doing extensive research online for the last couple of hours, and I haven't yet been able to dig up any kind of proof for the claim about Mahmood Khan allegedly helping to bring Ayman Al-Zawahiri into the United States. In fact, it's strangely difficult to find any information on him on the web at all, other than what Debbie Schlussel, frontpagemag.com, and a few others wrote about him.

However, it does appear that the Khan family has rather close ties to Grover Norquist, who was also closely tied to Al-Arian as well. And I distinctly remember a couple of years ago groups of people vehemently defending Al-Arian as well, and we know how that has turned out.

So, it certainly is possible that you're right and that the charges leveled against the Khan family were off-base, but to me it looks somewhat inconclusive at best. I would be quite interested in seeing hard evidence either way.

146 posted on 07/28/2006 12:20:09 PM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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To: PDR
Why should she? I wouldn't. You might meet a few "moderate" muslims, but trust me, when called, they will answer with whatever violence the Quran directs. Just like Christians who never dream they would have to choose between dying and renouncing Christ.

So, if you meet an occasional muslim who seem polite and nice, realize that lying and killing are at the root of their religion and they all have the potential to engage in both.
147 posted on 07/28/2006 12:21:26 PM PDT by auntyfemenist (Card carrying conservative, William F. Buckley fan.)
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To: PDR

Is that sand comfortable around your ears. Hiding will not stop the terrorist.


148 posted on 07/28/2006 12:26:13 PM PDT by JayAr36
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To: PDR

You can't refute jack, so you don't. You've plenty of time to tell others you don't have time, that they are wrong, that the author is wrong, but you've no time for debating any facts. You act just like the Witches of Eastwick and the other "untouchables" the liberals trot out. Oh, your friend died on 9-11, so no one can question your reasoning. You are pathetic.

You sir, are a troll. Be gone troll!


149 posted on 07/28/2006 12:30:35 PM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: SJackson

I've been keeping up on Dearborn area - I can't believe people aren't aware of what's happening up there - and Detroit too.

I'm in Cleveland and it's just too close for comfort for my taste. These folks are making huge inroads - getting seats on local councils, etc. If enough of them are in office, eventually, we'll be seeing even more changes take place.

Thanks for your diligence.

P.S. We just got rid of a local Imam - Fawaz Damra - and no country wants him. They want him deported for lying on his application but none of the countries he wants to go to want him (eg Canada, Argentina, Australia, etc.) Imagine he doesn't want to go back to Iran, or whatever slimy rock he crawled out from under. Imagine!


150 posted on 07/28/2006 12:33:33 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: absolootezer0

PING! You asked if there were really terrorists in Dearborn. Here is a thread that should help you out. There are a lot of Hezzies / Muslims in the Detroit area . . . I hope this helps!


151 posted on 07/28/2006 12:46:37 PM PDT by bondservant (Living in Jesusland!)
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To: PDR
... a bigot is a bigot is a bigot, no matter how they cloak themselves in righteous rhetoric and historical tragedy.

Are you saying Ms Schlussel is a self-righteous Jew using the Holocaust to persecute Muslims? I hope you will repudiate this as you're sounding a lot like Ahmadinejad.

152 posted on 07/28/2006 12:46:40 PM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Paved Paradise
I've been keeping up on Dearborn area - I can't believe people aren't aware of what's happening up there - and Detroit too.

I'm hoping that the Feds are being hands-off so they can more easily infiltrate and gather intelligence. These groups must be gold mines of terror connections.

153 posted on 07/28/2006 12:49:39 PM PDT by SupplySider
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To: bondservant

that's for the ping! i knew dearborn was bad, hadn't heard anything specific til now.


154 posted on 07/28/2006 1:06:35 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: PDR
Since when does telling the truth about Islam constitute bigotry? Was Bernie Goldberg a bigot for reporting the universal whooping-it-up in the Arab world after 9-11? Was Fiamma Nirenstein a bigot when she correctly identified the "river of hate" that flows directly from the basest of Arab villages right into the cockpits of the 9-11 highjackers? She also reported that a hit song by some Egyptian crooner was a #1 hit in the Mid East. Was it entitled "Oh! My Breaking Heart" or "Love Me Forever?" No! It was called "Why I Hate Israel." I guess that makes surely makes her a bigot, eh? If I were to tell you that a major Egyptian newspaper (Al Ahram) reported as fact an old medieval myth about Jews using the blood of murdered Christian children to make Passover matzah, I guess that would make a me bigot, according your definition of bigotry. If I were to tell you that two best-selling publications in the ME are The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Mein Kampf, a pair of the most racist books ever penned by man, again, would I be a racist? If I were to tell you a popular Palestinian joke goes like this: "How many Jews can you fit into a VW? The ashtray can hold twenty-seven," would I be bigoted for reporting this near universally held sentiment among these people? Would I be a bigot for telling you how the Palestinians teach their children to overcome their natural disinclination to kill by forcing them to torture and kill small animals? A well-respected Egyptian commentator publically said, "Thanks to Hitler, of blessed memory, who on behalf of the Palestinians took revenge in advance on the most vile criminals on the face of the earth." He then went on to say his only complaint against the Nazi dictator was that he didn't complete the job. Would I be a bigot if I were to declare that this man's statements are 'vile and criminal?' If I were to tell you that Arabs are taught from the crib to despise Christians and Jews, would that be bigoted or correctly reporting the actions of real bigots and racists?
Maybe you ought to educate yourself about who the real bigots and racists are in this world. You'll find them in places like Cairo, Damascus, Amman, Baghdad, Tripoli, Beriut, and, by the way, at Muslim rallies in Dearbornistan.
155 posted on 07/28/2006 1:21:07 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: Brilliant
Take a look at post # 140, an update from Debbie Schlussel's site. Seems like they had another pro-Hezzie demonstration in front of Dearborn City Hall yesterday.

If Hubbard had been rolling in his his grave before, this insult, occurring as it did right in front of his old fortress on Michigan Avenue, is enough to rouse him from the dead! (BTW, is he buried there?)

My, how times have changed - for the worse, needless to say.

156 posted on 07/28/2006 2:31:58 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: CSM
Ten Eyke is on Audette between Edgewood and Croissant. Basically it's the first street behind Outer Drive (on the North side) and Ten Eyke is between Rotunda and Southfield. Carlisle runs right into it if you pass what is now Amy's and what used to be Carlisle Drugs, next to the Sweetwater Steakhouse.

I completely agree with your assessment of the area. While there are definitely more Arabs in West Dearborn than there were when I grew up (basically there were none then) it is nowhere near the level that East Dearborn has. And most of these people who don't know the area, East or West, don't realize what a nice city Dearborn is. They hear Arab and do a knee jerk.

157 posted on 07/28/2006 2:50:38 PM PDT by ShadowDancer (No autopsy, no foul.)
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To: PDR

The Arab and Arab American press is nearly always doing that. Funny, I never heard you complaining before.


158 posted on 07/28/2006 3:14:55 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: SupplySider

I've heard Steve Emerson talk a few times on Bill Bennett's radio program about this very type of thing. We have infiltrated these mosques and according to Steve, they are, indeed, hotbeds for the type of activities we need to keep careful watch over.

I just wish more people cared. I'm not sure I know why but it seems like people are so caught up with their busy lives that they are overlooking things like this.

I feel like we're living in a time similar to the 30's in Germany where things are going to happen so fast, it's going to make our head spin. Mainly I feel this way because people are apathetic.


159 posted on 07/28/2006 3:35:49 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: SJackson

whoa, good report


160 posted on 07/28/2006 3:40:12 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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