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School coach can kneel while players pray
Star Ledger ^ | 07.26.06 | JOHN P. MARTIN

Posted on 07/27/2006 4:20:35 PM PDT by Coleus

A federal judge ruled yesterday that the East Brunswick High School football coach can bend a knee and bow his head while his players recite pre-game prayers this season, ending a dispute that had mushroomed into a nationally recognized test of the separation of church and state. After nearly two hours of arguments, U.S. District Judge Dennis Cavanaugh sided with the coach, Marcus Borden, declaring "taking a knee" isn't praying and that the Middlesex County school district can't order him to stand still while his players perform a locker room ritual that spans decades.

"Tradition plays a part, and the overall actions and responsibilities of a football coach should be considered," Cavanaugh said. "For the coach, who is looked at as the glue to hold all of this together and foster team spirit, to not be allowed to participate in these traditions -- even in the passive way -- just doesn't seem right." The ruling fell short of wading into the larger issue of prayer in public schools as some advocates had hoped. But it represented a victory for Borden, a 51-year-old coach and Spanish teacher who since last fall has battled to keep the post he has held for 23 years. A district policy enacted in October prohibited him from participating in team prayers, a practice Borden contended was unbearable.

"What (the decision) means now is that coaches who don't know what they can or can't do now know there is one thing they can do," said his attorney, Ronald Riccio. In a statement, the school district said it was "pleased" the case was over and that it had accomplished its goal of getting clarification from the courts. But the outcome it ultimately accepted was the same one it had argued was blatantly illegal by a public employee.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; churchstate; coach; eastbrunswick; establishmentclause; football; footballcoach; highschoolfootball; marcusborden; prayerinschool; publicschools; rutherfordinstitute; rutherfordorg; schoolprayer; schools; teachers
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Notice permission was given to the coach to only kneel and not pray. But then again the school and courts don't know what he is doing while kneeling.. Isn't it something that school teachers are allowed to hand out condoms, teach about Buddha and Mohammad, drive girls to the abortion mill, teach sex-ed informing them about every position, orifice and toy, teach earth worship on Earth Day, but say a simple prayer, NO WAY! and don't let that valedictorian say Jesus in her graduation speech, they'll turn off the mike because such speech is against the law.

Court Says NJ Coach Can Kneel in Prayer With His Players

1 posted on 07/27/2006 4:20:36 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


2 posted on 07/27/2006 4:21:26 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

That this was even questioned tells me it's time for me to leave the USA.


3 posted on 07/27/2006 4:23:29 PM PDT by realpatriot (Some spelling errers entionally included!)
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To: Coleus

The coach should be allowed to pray. A person in authority like a coach should simply announce before hand that nobody is required to pray and nobody will be discriminated against if they don't.


4 posted on 07/27/2006 4:23:53 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: realpatriot
That this was even questioned tells me it's time for me to leave the USA.

And go ... where?

5 posted on 07/27/2006 4:24:20 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Coleus
Pretty soon you will have to get permission from court to mow your lawn.

Am I the only one who sees where this is going?

6 posted on 07/27/2006 4:27:26 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: Coleus
They used to say "We are a nation of laws".....turns out they left out three letters.

"We are a nation of lawyers"!

7 posted on 07/27/2006 4:30:04 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: r9etb

You got mail.


8 posted on 07/27/2006 4:30:10 PM PDT by realpatriot (Some spelling errers entionally included!)
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To: DannyTN

Or all just kneel in "silent" prayer.

Let's face it, the school district didn't want him to pray at all. They made a fuss about it, spent the taxpayers' money and lost a battle.


9 posted on 07/27/2006 4:30:12 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: realpatriot
That this was even questioned tells me it's time for me to leave the USA.

And where will you go where things are better? Canada?

Yah,right!

Europe?

Don't make me laugh.

10 posted on 07/27/2006 4:30:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: realpatriot

before you go, just remember that this is STILL the greatest country on Earth.


11 posted on 07/27/2006 4:31:27 PM PDT by npg
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To: Coleus

Bizarre that it takes a court decision to allow the coach to take a knee. Ridiculous.


12 posted on 07/27/2006 4:31:27 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: npg

For the time being.


13 posted on 07/27/2006 4:32:37 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: Coleus

I just wondering how long this thread can go without some clueless type bolding stating that God doesn't care about the outcome of football games.


14 posted on 07/27/2006 4:33:46 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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"before you go, just remember that this is STILL the greatest country on Earth."

By what measure? Power, Economy? There is more to being great. This article proves this for me.

15 posted on 07/27/2006 4:34:15 PM PDT by realpatriot (Some spelling errers entionally included!)
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It seems that the people who run that school aren't real bright. If I lived there, I might consider transferring my kids to a school run by people who don't file and lose stupid lawsuits. That is, if I could find such a school. Liberals can be real dense - that's why they're liberals - but they're everywhere at the secondary level and higher.

That coach has to be laughing himself to tears right about now.

16 posted on 07/27/2006 4:34:38 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: realpatriot

"That this was even questioned tells me it's time for me to leave the USA."

No.

It's time for rank and file ordinary law-abiding, God-loving Americans to stick together and speak up. Work in a campaign. Vote. Make sure that others who feel like you do also go to the polls. Pressure your lawmakers to confirm conservative judges. "Choose you this day whom you will serve. . . "

In other words, be a part of the solution, not contribute to the problem by cutting and running.

I'm sure you didn't mean for your comment to sound cowardly, but it did.


17 posted on 07/27/2006 4:38:33 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: realpatriot

believe me, I see that we are not perfect and going downhill fast.

But we still have two great assets:

The Constitution, and Real Americans


18 posted on 07/27/2006 4:39:09 PM PDT by npg
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To: Jedidah

I agree...good advice.


19 posted on 07/27/2006 4:39:20 PM PDT by milford421 (UN OUT OF U.S.)
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To: Coleus
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...
20 posted on 07/27/2006 4:44:30 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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