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IRS Threatens Political Speech
US House ^ | 24 Jul | Congressman Ron Paul

Posted on 07/27/2006 8:20:43 AM PDT by xzins

Five years ago, I wrote about threats made by the Internal Revenue Service against conservative churches for supposedly engaging in politicking. Today, the IRS is again attempting to chill free speech, sending notices to more than 15,000 non-profit organizations—including churches—regarding its new crackdown on political activity.

But what exactly constitutes political activity? What if a member of the clergy urges his congregation to work toward creating a pro-life culture, when an upcoming election features a pro-life candidate? What if a minister admonishes churchgoers that homosexuality is sinful, when an initiative banning gay marriage is on an upcoming ballot? Where exactly do we draw the line, and when does the IRS begin to violate the First amendment’s guarantee of free exercise of religion?

I agree with my colleague Walter Jones of North Carolina that the political views of any particular church or its members are none of the government’s business. Congressman Jones introduced legislation that addresses this very serious issue of IRS harassment of churches engaging in conservative political activity. This bill is badly needed to end the IRS practice of threatening certain politically disfavored faiths with loss of their tax-exempt status, while ignoring the very open and public political activities of other churches. While some well-known leftist preachers routinely advocate socialism from the pulpit, many conservative Christian and Jewish congregations cannot present their political beliefs without risking scrutiny from the tax collector.

The supposed motivation behind the ban on political participation by churches is the need to maintain a rigid separation between church and state. However, the First amendment simply prohibits the federal government from passing laws that establish religion or prohibit the free exercise of religion. There certainly is no mention of any "separation of church and state," yet lawmakers and judges continually assert this mythical doctrine.

The result is court rulings and laws that separate citizens from their religious beliefs in all public settings, in clear violation of the free exercise clause. Our Founders never envisioned a rigidly secular public society, where people must nonsensically disregard their deeply held beliefs in all matters of government and politics. They certainly never imagined that the federal government would actively work to chill the political activities of some churches.

Speech is speech, regardless of the setting. There is no legal distinction between religious expression and political expression; both are equally protected by the First amendment. Religious believers do not drop their political opinions at the door of their place of worship, nor do they disregard their faith at the ballot box. Religious morality will always inform the voting choices of Americans of all faiths.

The political left, however, seeks to impose the viewpoint that public life must be secular, and that government cannot reflect morality derived from faith. Many Democrats, not all, are threatened by strong religious institutions because they want an ever-growing federal government to serve as the unchallenged authority in our society. So the real motivation behind the insistence on a separation of church and state is not based on respect for the First amendment, but rather on a desire to diminish the influence of religious conservatives at the ballot box.

The Constitution's guarantee of religious freedom must not depend on the whims of IRS bureaucrats. Religious institutions cannot freely preach their beliefs if they must fear that the government will accuse them of "politics." We cannot allow churches to be silenced any more than we can allow political dissent in general to be silenced. Free societies always have strong, independent institutions that are not afraid to challenge and criticize the government.


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KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; churchandstate; elections; firstamendment; freeexercise; freespeech; govwatch; irs; scotus; taxes
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To: GSlob

Taxation is predicated on existence, regardless of any rights, alienable or not.

Not when the law delimition that taxation predicates exemption on being politically silent.

Secondly taxation is in reality predicated on more that mere existance, as in at direct tax which must be layed in accord with the rule of apportionment among the states.

All other forms of taxation, comprehended by those laid by the rule of uniformity, are laid upon predicates of use, action, etc beyond mere existance.

 

Hylton v. United States(1796), 3 U.S. 171

  • "A general power is given to Congress, to lay and collect taxes, of every kind or nature, without any restraint, except only on exports; but two rules are prescribed for their government, namely, uniformity and apportionment: Three kinds of taxes, to wit, duties, imposts, and excises by the first rule, and capitation, or other direct taxes, by the second rule. "
  • "[T]he DIRECT TAXES contemplated by the Constitution, are only two, to wit, A CAPITATION OR POLL TAX, simply, without regard to property, profession, or any other circumstance; and a tax on LAND.
  • KNOWLTON v. MOORE, 178 U.S. 41 (1900)

    BROMLEY v. MCCAUGHN, 280 U.S. 124 (1929)

    Tyler v. U.S. 281 U.S. 497, 502 (1930)

     

    However no statute enacted by Congress may predicate the taxation of unalienable rights clearly stated under the 1st amendment, and amendment which clearly and unequivocable states:

    Congress shall make no law ...


    181 posted on 07/27/2006 11:12:12 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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    Here are my thoughts on the issue of 501(c)3's.

    This issue involves moew than just churches. It also cuts to the heart of being able to donate to an organization in order to have your voice heard.

    FR is one of those deals that is pretty much affected. Right now if you make a donation to FR, it's not tax deductible.

    The reason for that is because in order for an organization to be tax exempt it must refrain from endorsing candidates or taking positions on issues of public importance.

    This goes back to LBJ. He didn't like what some groups were saying about him or his administration so what he did as revenge was put proscriptions on these organizations where if they contuined, they would lose their tax exempt status.

    This clearly was not what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Futhermore, there's really no such thing as separation of church and state. to say there is really stupid, idiotic and foolish.

    There's a reason why Democrats and RINO's want to keep things this way. They do so because everybody knows that what they're doing is not only wrong but it's malicious.

    These politicians do not have the best interests of the country in their hearts. Their only interest is in the reacquistion of power so that they can continue to missuse and abuse it to do what they know full well are malicious and harmful things to us, the people of this country.

    Remember Bill Clinton? This is the previous administration I'm talking about. Monica Lewinsky, Sexual Harrasment, Numerous rapes and murders that took place under his watch.

    A lot of what he did was ung-dly. This is why they want these same proscriptions to continue. Because they want to be able to continue to do these enormously malicious and harmful things and they don't want christians and conservatives voicing opposition to their activities.

    That is the reason right now why organizations like FR are not tax exempt. Take away these proscriptions and let them be tax exempt and it would allow them to be able to address issues of public importance without having to worry about the IRS breathing down their throats.

    It would also mean more and more people being able to contribute to these organizations as a result of being able to deduct that donation from their taxes.
    Regards.......

    182 posted on 07/27/2006 11:13:13 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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    To: JamesP81
    And unto God which is God's. Please don't forget the rest of the verse. As xzins says, if the state takes part of my gift to the church, it is curtailing my religious rights.

    No, it is not. You and your church can simply not engage in conduct that is not subject to tax-exempt status, such as commercial or political activity.

    I think any and all speech, political, religious, or otherwise, should not be abridged in any way. Ever. I am appalled that there are so-called conservatives that are all in favor of regulating political speech using the tax code.

    Once again, tax-exempt is not a right. If you wish to be taxed LESS than other organizations, you agree to stick to charitable work. If you wish to be political, you are taxed the SAME as political organization. There is no curtailment of a right here. If you chose to engage in political speech, you are made EQUAL with others regarding your tax status.

    Once again, the NRA does just fine segrating its political and tax-exempt non-political activities. I have yet to see your side even try to deal with that reality as you whine about the unfairness of being taxed for political activity.

    183 posted on 07/27/2006 11:17:16 AM PDT by dirtboy (Glad to see the ink was still working in Bush's veto pen, now that he wisely used it on this bill)
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    To: Badray; MichiganConservative; pigdog; Taxman; JamesP81; ancient_geezer; xzins; All
    Only God knows how long I have prayed for this thread on FR!

    The issue, with regard to the income tax, is and has always been, FREEDOM! Either you are for FREEDOM and are working to rid our nation of this communist inspired monster called the "progressive income tax" or you are not. There is no middle ground in this one.

    We will never again be a free people so long as we have an income tax and the IRS!

    184 posted on 07/27/2006 11:17:27 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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    To: tumblindice
    But most Christian churches are directed by the Word, and the scripture says to render unto God that which is God's.

    No one is making you participate in our political system. I consider it a great blessing that we are allowed to do so, to have some say over who Caesar is in this country. I consider it my civic and Christian duty to make my voice heard. If you want to sit back and let the nanny state tell you what speech is acceptable and what's not, and then render unto Caesar whatever the hell Caesar decides he wants, be my guest. I'm taking a more pro active approach.
    185 posted on 07/27/2006 11:17:28 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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    To: tumblindice
    Since you used a profanity, you must be right.

    I was adding emphasis. This seems to have escaped you.
    186 posted on 07/27/2006 11:18:17 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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    To: E.G.C.
    The reason for that is because in order for an organization to be tax exempt it must refrain from endorsing candidates or taking positions on issues of public importance

    Incorrect. 501(c)(3) orgs can & do take positions on issues of public importance whether they are the NRA, Planned Parenthood or the NAACP.

    They can't electioneer, which isn't the same thing.

    187 posted on 07/27/2006 11:18:56 AM PDT by gdani
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    To: E.G.C.
    That is the reason right now why organizations like FR are not tax exempt.

    You have it exactly backwards. FR is not tax exempt because it is not involved in charitable work. Therefore, it is taxed the same as other enterprises.

    You seem to think being tax-exempt is a right for some and not for others.

    188 posted on 07/27/2006 11:18:58 AM PDT by dirtboy (Glad to see the ink was still working in Bush's veto pen, now that he wisely used it on this bill)
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    To: dirtboy

    Levying taxes because an organization engages in political speech that it wouldn't occur if it didn't engage in political speech is about as clear of an abridgment of the 1st Amendment as I can possibly imagine. It is unbelievable that you can't see that. God help us all.


    189 posted on 07/27/2006 11:22:06 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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    To: JamesP81; dirtboy
    Errr...that's incur not occur. PIMF.
    190 posted on 07/27/2006 11:23:48 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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    To: JamesP81

    "I think any and all speech, political, religious, or otherwise, should not be abridged in any way. Ever. I am appalled that there are so-called conservatives . . . etc.")

    I think your (incredibly naive) rhetoric speaks for itself.
    Dammit! (for emphasis)


    191 posted on 07/27/2006 11:24:39 AM PDT by tumblindice
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    To: ancient_geezer
    If the churches didn't take the tax-exempt status, they could say anything they want.

    Carolyn

    192 posted on 07/27/2006 11:25:34 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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    To: JamesP81
    Levying taxes because an organization engages in political speech that it wouldn't occur if it didn't engage in political speech is about as clear of an abridgment of the 1st Amendment as I can possibly imagine

    Once again, it is not levying taxes. It is removing TAX BREAKS. If you chose to engage in political activity, you are taxed at the SAME RATE as others who engage in political activities OUTSIDE OF A CHURCH.

    You are not seeking equality - you are seeking special treatment from other political activities under the guise of religion and your church. Do you think that political donations from George Soros should be tax exempt?

    193 posted on 07/27/2006 11:27:21 AM PDT by dirtboy (Glad to see the ink was still working in Bush's veto pen, now that he wisely used it on this bill)
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    To: CDHart

    hhhmmm, The Unitarian Universalist "Church" in the center of my town sports 2 giant rainbow flags with a sign that proclaims "We support equal marriage". Should I call the IRS?


    194 posted on 07/27/2006 11:27:57 AM PDT by tkas (Conservative mom)
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    To: JamesP81

    "I'm taking a more `pro-active' approach."

    Is that like "speaking truth to power"? `Diversity', `comprehensive', 'paradigm', perameters', 'projection', etc.?
    Sorry, I don't speak demo-psychobabble.


    195 posted on 07/27/2006 11:29:07 AM PDT by tumblindice
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    To: tkas
    Absolutely! Let me know what happens.

    Carolyn

    196 posted on 07/27/2006 11:29:53 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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    To: dirtboy
    Once again, it is not levying taxes. It is removing TAX BREAKS.

    It doesn't matter how you word it. The end result is that political speech ends up getting taxed. How it's codified in law doesn't really matter all that much. This should not happen in a Republic, period. It doesn't even matter who's making the political speech.
    197 posted on 07/27/2006 11:32:39 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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    To: CDHart

    If the churches didn't take the tax-exempt status, they could say anything they want.

    Anyone, including those in peaceful assembly of churches, can say anything guaranteed under the 1st amendment they want regardless of tax status

    What part of "Congress shall make no law ...", abridging the freedoms of political and religous speech.

    Do you not understand?

    To tax the exercise of a right is to have power over it. Sorry, "Congress shall make no law ...".

    198 posted on 07/27/2006 11:32:53 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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    To: dirtboy
    Do you think that political donations from George Soros should be tax exempt?

    If we have to make his political donations tax exempt so that everyone else's political donations are tax exempt, so be it. Political speech must not, under any circumstances, be curtailed by government action.
    199 posted on 07/27/2006 11:34:01 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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    To: xzins

    You're welcome.


    200 posted on 07/27/2006 11:34:21 AM PDT by spunkets
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