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State trooper pleads guilty to possessing machine gun
Belleville News-Democrat ^ | Jul. 26, 2006 | ASHLEY TUSAN JOYNER

Posted on 07/26/2006 4:47:07 PM PDT by bad company

Illinois State Police trooper Gregory Mugge pleaded guilty to one charge of possessing an unregistered machine gun in federal court on Tuesday, according to an announcement from the U.S. attorney's office.

Mugge, 52, of Jerseyville, was indicted in January, along with Illinois State Police Sgt. James Vest, 39, of O'Fallon, and John Yard, 36, an Illinois State Police special agent assigned to the Collinsville office, each face separate charges of illegal gun possession.

Mugge faces up to 10 years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and a maximum three years of supervised release.

He is scheduled to reappear in court for sentencing on Oct. 27.

On Dec. 29, authorities seized Mugge's unregistered Colt .2234 caliber rifle from his home in Jerseyville. In his plea, Mugge admitted to knowing his possession of the rifle was unlawful.

In February, a group of 12 local police chiefs and sheriffs, and two state senators, Sen. Bill Haine, D-Alton, and Sen. James Watson, R-Greenville, endorsed a letter of support for the three state troopers.

At that time, the backers pushed for administrative punishment for the three troopers rather than prosecution.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; automaticrifle; bang; banglist; firearm; leo; m16; machinegun; mg; rifle; rkba; secondamendment
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To: Hodar

100% correct. I disagree with the law but it is there.


81 posted on 07/26/2006 5:59:35 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: JillValentine
If you are a gun nut, then I hope you criticize gun-banners as enthusiastically as you criticize your fellow gun owners.

Amen...I refuse to do combat with unarmed opponents, and these other anti-freedom Freepers (or at least just want to restrict the ugly guns)...just bore me with infantile arguements.

82 posted on 07/26/2006 5:59:47 PM PDT by DCBryan1 ( HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck! HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck !(Avail. only from Muslims))
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To: Hodar
You can write your name with a Colt .223 (AR-15/M-15?) as described in this article?

No, but I did land 17 our of 17 rounds into a 14 year old Iraqi terrorist trying to throw a russian anti tank hand grenade into our Humvee outside of Camp Taji.

83 posted on 07/26/2006 6:01:09 PM PDT by DCBryan1 ( HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck! HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck !(Avail. only from Muslims))
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To: Dog Gone

"Okay, give me a plausible scenario where you need a machine gun. When do you need to gun down a dozen people at once? A bad day at the office?"

Why should I need to explain a need to exercise a constitutional right? Do you need a fast car? Do you need a big house? Do you need free speech? Do you really need that silly 5th amendment?

You automatically assume its to go postal in the office. That shows a pretty sick disposition.


84 posted on 07/26/2006 6:02:21 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: DCBryan1

LOL, Okay, I mostly agree with that argument!


85 posted on 07/26/2006 6:02:33 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

"Then, the question is where do you draw the line down from there. "

Where does the Constitution express limitations due to technology?


86 posted on 07/26/2006 6:04:07 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Hodar
No, but I did land 17 our of 17 rounds into a 14 year old Iraqi terrorist trying to throw a russian anti tank hand grenade into our Humvee outside of Camp Taji.

LOL...I forgot to tell you, my SAW jammed...I would have emptied 200 rounds into that little Jihadi f**ker since it was the same neighborhood killed 3 of my soldiers while over there.

87 posted on 07/26/2006 6:05:19 PM PDT by DCBryan1 ( HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck! HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck !(Avail. only from Muslims))
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To: driftdiver

I can't have a rational discussion with you without being accused of having a sick disposition.

I wonder who that says more about.


88 posted on 07/26/2006 6:05:33 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: driftdiver

Sorry, through with you. You're into insults. Other people can carry your arguments, but I don't need your crap.


89 posted on 07/26/2006 6:06:53 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone; Hodar; All

Ok, gotta run. Its happy happy hour at Flying Saucer here in Little Rock, and they let you keep the glasses on WED nights. I'll be back in 5 beers (2 hours).


90 posted on 07/26/2006 6:07:18 PM PDT by DCBryan1 ( HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck! HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck !(Avail. only from Muslims))
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To: DCBryan1
I'll be back in 5 beers (2 hours).

Then this thread will really heat up.

91 posted on 07/26/2006 6:08:07 PM PDT by DCBryan1 ( HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck! HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck !(Avail. only from Muslims))
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To: Dog Gone

It is possible to "mow down" 30 people in a minute with any number of hi-cap,semi- auto weapons. whats the diff?


92 posted on 07/26/2006 6:08:07 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: bad company
" authorities seized Mugge's unregistered Colt .2234 caliber rifle from his home in Jerseyville."

The Colt M-16 is not a machine gun.

The M-60 is a machine gun, belt fed.

The 20mm is a mounted machine gun. This is the one you need to bolt the mount to the floor of your pick-up. Or you will crash through the rear window and fly through the front window of your pick-up with the first shot. Those are the belt-driven ones. And those shells are BIG.

93 posted on 07/26/2006 6:11:32 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Virulas

Colt was one of the vendors for the full auto m16


94 posted on 07/26/2006 6:12:45 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Dog Gone

"...so shove your straw man criticism up your musket."

Well, it's nice to see that you've got the attitude and maturity of a 6-year-old. Congratulations.

As I said before, our troops in Iraq have drawn the line between AK-47s and RPG launchers. I think that's a fair line, and I'm sure that our troops are a lot less ignorant than you. If you think the line should be somewhere else, then explain where you think it should be and why without making false accusations saying that I want people to have WMDs.


95 posted on 07/26/2006 6:13:13 PM PDT by JillValentine (Helen of Troy: Face that launched 1000 ships. Helen Thomas: Face that launched 1000 lunches.)
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To: DCBryan1

"Makes you think"

Makes me sick. But then I don't think you can take any one issue and analyze it alone. I believe in the conspiracy theory of a movement for a one world govt. And I think its their goal to disarm the sheeple, among other things.


96 posted on 07/26/2006 6:14:03 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Dog Gone
Machine guns weren't invented yet

Following that logic, television, radio and the internet do not fall under the first ammendment.

97 posted on 07/26/2006 6:14:50 PM PDT by bad company (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks his closet for FReeper kanawa)
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To: BobS

dont you consider full auto a machine gun?


98 posted on 07/26/2006 6:18:26 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: DCBryan1

And that! is a job well done. Hats off to you Sir.


99 posted on 07/26/2006 6:18:37 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: JillValentine

I never said anyone wanted you to have WMDs. I never said that you wanted them. Reread my post. I said the Founding Fathers almost certainly did not want you to have WMDs.

If you would actually read what is posted instead of seeing what you want to see, it would prevent some nasty exchanges.


100 posted on 07/26/2006 6:18:58 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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