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Dump Condi: Foreign policy conservatives charge State Dept. has hijacked Bush agenda
Insight Magazine ^ | July 26th | Daniel

Posted on 07/26/2006 2:36:52 PM PDT by red meat conservative

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To: capt. norm

Will the whining never stop??


41 posted on 07/26/2006 3:27:27 PM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: red meat conservative

I agree if by "Dump Her" you mean "free her up" to start campaigning for Pres.

Go CONDI 2008

The State Dept. Sucks. The Institution is wimpy in general. I'm not sure how Condi could fix that short of abolishing it. In Viet Nam the State Dept fought against the Defense Dept. Selling food to and building truck factories for the Communists in Russia who then used their money to finance the NVA.


43 posted on 07/26/2006 3:30:01 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X = they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: itsahoot
Will it require heavy duty or can I get by with regular? Depends on whether or not you want to see I guess. My guess is that you don't, but time will tell. How is the no nuke negotiation going with Iran? Norh Korea?

Sounds like the store might be out of tinfoil... unless they've restocked since you picked up yours.

44 posted on 07/26/2006 3:30:02 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: red meat conservative
However, in light of everything negative that has resulted from these concessions will she ever change that course of direction?

She serves at the pleasure of the president and the direction is his to change.

45 posted on 07/26/2006 3:30:22 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: capt. norm

in two weeks at FR


46 posted on 07/26/2006 3:31:04 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Soul Seeker
And that is easily accomplished by convincing G.W.B. to detail that change to her.

How lucky have they been on convincing GW he is wrong on immigration?

47 posted on 07/26/2006 3:32:34 PM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine)
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To: altura
Will the whining never stop??

Some of the mmore clever liberals slip in here and try to play the "I'm more conservative than anyone" game.

Using that ruse, they then start going after conservatives that they think are vulnerable and start picking away at them.

It's nothing new, but they seem to theink it still works.

48 posted on 07/26/2006 3:33:11 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: EDINVA
in two weeks at FR

He probably would have signed up sooner but assembling a list of talking points takes time.

Typical lib trick on this forum...pretend to be very conservative and then start looking for conservatives that appear to be vulnerable to attack for not being conservative enough aand start denigrating them.

It's like everything else liberals do, they have to hide their motives and make it sound like they're just concerned about someone not being as conservative as they claim to be.

49 posted on 07/26/2006 3:38:10 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: red meat conservative
Wow, the Ubercons have found another topic for their incessant whining. I don't think that they don't know what they don't know.

Rice scares the stuffing out of those guys.

50 posted on 07/26/2006 3:41:00 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (999-TNS)
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To: red meat conservative

What an utterly stupid and totally clueless rant.


52 posted on 07/26/2006 3:45:59 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: red meat conservative
red meat conservative Since Jul 6, 2006

Should that not be Red Mean NON Conservative? If you have to lie about your real political allegience, you have all ready LOST the debate.

53 posted on 07/26/2006 3:47:18 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: red meat conservative

What you are really saying is that the president should change his policy. If he needs to, then, lay the blame on her to save face, he should do so.

He's not that kind of guy. When he decides to change policy, he will and he'll take the hit himself.

Now to the specifics:

She and Bush are handling the Lebanon incursion pretty well. They have said they favor a cease-fire just as soon as Hezbollah disarms, which pretty clearly means "when they surrender". Hezbollah understands it, so does Lebanon, and so does everyone else.

She and Bush continue to favor the so-called "two-state" solution in palestine, which is really a three-state solution, but who's counting. That is still Israel's position, actually. But neither she nor Bush have done anything to impede Israel as they go about their business in Gaza.

I don't favor the fantasy-notion of an independent Gaza or West Bank at all, and I'll be happy when the smart folks have abandoned that idea for good. But until Bush (and the Israelis) are ready to dump the idea, Rice will continue to walk the line.

Bush/Rice have not only continued to arm Israel in the middle of the battle but have made sure everyone knows about it, and they are delivering bunker busters, just to make the point clear for anyone not paying attention.


54 posted on 07/26/2006 3:52:08 PM PDT by marron
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To: red meat conservative
She has been horrible. But she isn't going to be fired or moved.
55 posted on 07/26/2006 3:55:28 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: itsahoot

Last I checked we were pretty effective on changing Miers.

He has a 50/50 record. So, change is possible.

Guarenteed? Nah, nothing ever is, but it's conceivable and you can't deny that. Especially since this is a different policy item altogether. He's been known to take strong stands on foreign policy with Afghanistan, with Iraq, even Bolton's appointment. You simply cannot compare the two.

And it's certainly a more effective solution then getting rid of someone who's competent in their job. I don't want to fire competance. I do want to alter the mindset in State that seeks to avoid conflict at all costs.

As an aside, The proper comparison to immigration is an insistence on a Palestinian state. That one he isn't going to budge on. I don't like his position on either, but I know it's not going to change and I've never tried to change it. I've tried to throw up roadblocks in the other legislative branches, particularly concerning amnesty instead.

But being more aggressive with terrorists? yeah, we can win that one.


56 posted on 07/26/2006 3:55:58 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: red meat conservative

Gotta disagree with you. I'd rather have an intelligent Condi as SOS than shoot from the lip idiots like Perle or egomaniacs like Newt.

Screw em.


57 posted on 07/26/2006 3:56:29 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Santiago de la Vega

Nonsense. She is better than Powell.


58 posted on 07/26/2006 3:58:07 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
Nonsense. She is better than Powell.

I wouldn't say this anymore.

59 posted on 07/26/2006 4:00:45 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: capt. norm
Must have just graduated from the 'Kerry Kindergarten' on

July 5th and put his/her plan into operation the next day.

1. Start a blog.

2. Join Freepers.

3. Now convince FR members I'm a conservative.

4. Start plan of destruction to the right-wing.
60 posted on 07/26/2006 4:01:17 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (Spreading the truth - Doing the job the MSM won't do!)
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