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Dump Condi: Foreign policy conservatives charge State Dept. has hijacked Bush agenda
Insight Magazine ^ | July 26th | Daniel

Posted on 07/26/2006 2:36:52 PM PDT by red meat conservative

Conservative national security allies of President Bush are in revolt against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, saying that she is incompetent and has reversed the administration’s national security and foreign policy agenda.

The conservatives, who include Newt Gingrich, Richard Perle and leading current and former members of the Pentagon and National Security Council, have urged the president to transfer Miss Rice out of the State Department and to an advisory role. They said Miss Rice, stemming from her lack of understanding of the Middle East, has misled the president on Iran and the Arab-Israeli conflict.

"The president has yet to understand that people make policy and not the other way around," a senior national security policy analyst said. "Unlike [former Secretary of State Colin] Powell, Condi is loyal to the president. She is just incompetent on most foreign policy issues."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; bushdoctrine; condhimmirice; condi; conservatives; dump; foreign; jamesbaker; newt; perle; pimpinforbloghits; policy; readmyblog; seminarposter; sleeper; statedept; term2; uberconalert
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To: The South Texan
Bush and co should have demanded to resignation of every Clinton appointee from every department of government in Jan 2001 when he took office

Sounds good but the Clinton appointees were turned into Civil Servants before Clinton left office, and you can't ask for resignations of Civil Servants. It was a shrewd move by the Clintons. I believe they did this in the State Dept, the Justice Dept and anywhere else where they could. There should be a Federal Law against doing this but apparently there isn't and Hillary made some shrewd moves. She did this to undermine the next Republican president. Only thing that can be done is to demote the Civil Servants for incompetence, perhaps.

181 posted on 07/26/2006 7:23:35 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: Scarchin

I think that most of us are skeptical enough and just having fun. Most people on this thread haven't fallen for a thing. And most of us aren't even arguing, cause we KNOW who did it.


182 posted on 07/26/2006 7:23:52 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Mo1

Mr. Gingrich agrees and said Miss Rice's inexperience and lack of resolve were demonstrated in the aftermath of the North Korean launch of seven short-, medium-, and intermediate-range missiles in July. He suggested that Miss Rice was a key factor in the lack of a firm U.S. response.


"North Korea firing missiles," Mr. Gingrich said. "You say there will be consequences. There are none. We are in the early stages of World War III. Our bureaucracies are not responding fast enough. We don't have the right attitude."


183 posted on 07/26/2006 7:23:53 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Pukin Dog

You're so easy. LOL.


184 posted on 07/26/2006 7:24:25 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: capt. norm

LOL.

Heck, he should give Oscar the grouch my regards while he's at it.


185 posted on 07/26/2006 7:25:35 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: gentlestrength

Great thought. You and several others have had Condi 2008 President on their home pages or mentioned it. Have you been to www.3condi.com

We can get you a bumper sticker if you wish.


186 posted on 07/26/2006 7:25:48 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: pollyannaish
Yes, I am.

But its my bed...I mean BEER time. See ya!
187 posted on 07/26/2006 7:26:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Howlin

What does Newit think our response should have been??


188 posted on 07/26/2006 7:27:45 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Howlin
Newt...desperately trying to be relevant again. I would have so much more respect for the man if he would just fade into history and be here to provide context rather than critique.

What is it about boomers that doesn't allow them to go out with the grace and humility of most of their predecessors? Even Tom Foley had enough sense to do that for crying out loud.
189 posted on 07/26/2006 7:28:37 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Mo1

The opposite of whatever Bush does.


190 posted on 07/26/2006 7:29:47 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Pukin Dog

That's what makes you so entertaining.

Have a good one.


191 posted on 07/26/2006 7:30:02 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish

Power mad; need that fund raising money; need that camera face time; need the security of "being somebody."

What does that tell you about his character to begin with?

Scary as hell, IMO.


192 posted on 07/26/2006 7:30:52 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Howlin

So he thinks we should just start World War III and get over with, huh??

Oh great plan there Newit


193 posted on 07/26/2006 7:31:09 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Perdogg

Goss? Where is he?


194 posted on 07/26/2006 7:33:39 PM PDT by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: Scarchin
Good reminder...a lot of us have been onto it from the beginning and were having as little fun. That's how the thread got so big.

Notice that the trolls have slithered back into the woodwork to get more seminar training from their fellow cockroaches.

195 posted on 07/26/2006 7:35:02 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: Howlin

You know, I really appreciate what Newt did when he did it. Machiavelli couldn't have done better.

But then I saw what lack of character can do. In the long run, it's a loser. I've changed the way I look at candidates since then. Character does matter.

President Reagan knew that, and so does President Bush. I may not always agree with this President, by I rest assured that what he does, he does for the right reasons.

You are completely correct—his hubris is scary as hell.


196 posted on 07/26/2006 7:41:34 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish

What is it about boomers that doesn't allow them to go out with the grace and humility of most of their predecessors? Even Tom Foley had enough sense to do that for crying out loud.

What the heck are you talking about? You make it sound like Newt retired and is ancient. He's not. He's still a reasonably young man, politics-wise. You want him in a monastery. His brain didn't stop working when he left Congress. If anything, Newt's brain works non-stop and overtime. The idea he would go out to pasture at his age is ludicrous.


197 posted on 07/26/2006 7:55:51 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: capt. norm
I don't need to set you straight you need to apologize.
198 posted on 07/26/2006 7:59:29 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: flaglady47
I'm not talking about him going out to pasture, flaglady.

Decent people do not criticize others who are doing their jobs after they have left them. It's just ugly and makes a person seem small. Great men and women take on new challenges, find new work, seek new things to stay relevant and to make the world a better place. He could work on building a think tank, or find a cause that he wants to focus on. He could become an ambassador, or spokesman. There are a thousand things he could do that would be positive.

Instead, Newt is trying to stay relevant and build up his legacy by simply talking down the current administration. That is Carter/Clinton worthy behavior, and I had hoped that he would do better. He could provide context. He could be instructive rather than destructive.

But, imo, he took the low road, and that is a real disappointment.
199 posted on 07/26/2006 8:04:19 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: red meat conservative

Who in the world would care what Newt Gingrich has to say? He's a loser in every sense of the word. Whatever Newt says, just do the opposite and you'll probably be ok, lol.


200 posted on 07/26/2006 8:05:55 PM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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