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Dump Condi: Foreign policy conservatives charge State Dept. has hijacked Bush agenda
Insight Magazine ^ | July 26th | Daniel

Posted on 07/26/2006 2:36:52 PM PDT by red meat conservative

Conservative national security allies of President Bush are in revolt against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, saying that she is incompetent and has reversed the administration’s national security and foreign policy agenda.

The conservatives, who include Newt Gingrich, Richard Perle and leading current and former members of the Pentagon and National Security Council, have urged the president to transfer Miss Rice out of the State Department and to an advisory role. They said Miss Rice, stemming from her lack of understanding of the Middle East, has misled the president on Iran and the Arab-Israeli conflict.

"The president has yet to understand that people make policy and not the other way around," a senior national security policy analyst said. "Unlike [former Secretary of State Colin] Powell, Condi is loyal to the president. She is just incompetent on most foreign policy issues."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; bushdoctrine; condhimmirice; condi; conservatives; dump; foreign; jamesbaker; newt; perle; pimpinforbloghits; policy; readmyblog; seminarposter; sleeper; statedept; term2; uberconalert
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To: marron

I wouldn't mind if you are right, but she's repeatedly said she isn't running.


101 posted on 07/26/2006 5:24:42 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: marron
I suspect we are looking at our next president.

Threads like these are eerily reminiscent of the flame wars back in '99 over who should be the Republican nominee.

Alot of folks (including the esteemed owner of this site) weren't too wild about Bush at the time.

102 posted on 07/26/2006 5:26:00 PM PDT by uglybiker (Don't blame me. I didn't make you stupid.)
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To: Pukin Dog

"the MASSIVE changes Rice has made at the State Dept."

Can you name them (MASSIVE changes)?


103 posted on 07/26/2006 5:28:01 PM PDT by dakine
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To: dakine
Can you name them (MASSIVE changes)?

Is this for the grand prize and can I use a "life-line" to call a friend before answering?

["Who Wants to be a Millionaire" background music plays on..........]

Oh wait....it's not my turn. Darn!

104 posted on 07/26/2006 5:33:10 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: uglybiker
Great tag-line!

I'd love to have that on a t-shirt or bumper sticker.

105 posted on 07/26/2006 5:36:54 PM PDT by capt. norm (Veni, Vidi, Velcro = I came, I saw, I stuck around)
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To: The South Texan

Bush and co should have demanded to resignation of every Clinton appointee from every department of government in Jan 2001




Clinton took steps at the very end of his disastrous eight years to ensure that couldn't happen. I'm sure President Bush would have liked nothing better if he'd been able to start with a clean slate.



106 posted on 07/26/2006 5:37:21 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (Spreading the truth - Doing the job the MSM won't do!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Most of the statements I've heard/read fromher on the matter run along the lines of: "I have no intention of seeking the nomination...".

That little bit of ambiguity leaves her with some wiggle room. i.e. 'Although I might accept it if it were offered'.

If she truly does not wish to seek the office, she will have to quote William Tecumseh Sherman:

If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve.

107 posted on 07/26/2006 5:39:29 PM PDT by uglybiker (Don't blame me. I didn't make you stupid.)
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To: dakine
I expect FReepers to do their own research. Dont agree? Prove me wrong.
108 posted on 07/26/2006 5:42:40 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: uglybiker

If she changes her mind, I promise not to hassle her about her previous reluctance. :~)


109 posted on 07/26/2006 5:42:58 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Pukin Dog

hahaha....just as I thought...

No substance...


110 posted on 07/26/2006 5:44:20 PM PDT by dakine
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To: capt. norm

While I am here for a few more minutes, I'll take a stab and help out

Read these two on Transformational Diplomacy and New Direction for U.S. Foreign Assistance from the State Department web site.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2006/59398.htm

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2006/59339.htm

Also try this:

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/13814730.htm

Feel free to find a few of your own. I got these by using that google thingy for oh about 30 seconds...


111 posted on 07/26/2006 5:45:41 PM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: dakine

I just gave you a start...


112 posted on 07/26/2006 5:46:35 PM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: section9
I agree with your post at #100 except for one thing. Condi and Rummy are only playing a good cop bad cop game. They have no conflict.
113 posted on 07/26/2006 5:49:26 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: ejonesie22

Your learning...That big ol' fancy word "transformation" has been thrown around a lot by/in FedGov...It disguises any real changes...


114 posted on 07/26/2006 5:50:07 PM PDT by dakine
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To: dakine
It is not my job to educate the uniformed. I challenge you to prove me wrong. You wont, because you CANT.
115 posted on 07/26/2006 5:50:24 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: TheCrusader
Warren Christopher? Cyrus Vance? Ed Muskie? Larry Eagleburger?

Sorry, but you are a patronizing dolt.
116 posted on 07/26/2006 5:50:34 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Pukin Dog

Okay...You win your "MASSIVE" argument... since you can not name one....hahahaha


117 posted on 07/26/2006 5:51:57 PM PDT by dakine
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To: TheCrusader

You think Warren Christopher was better? HAHAHAHAHA!


118 posted on 07/26/2006 5:52:24 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: capt. norm
Doh. I forgot Haig. And I didn't even mention a bunch that have more solid credentials but unremarkable nonetheless.

Not to over simplify here, but some people just don't get governmental "Good cop, bad cop."

I do know that George Schultz has a tiger tattooed on his backside. That ought to qualify me for some kind of triva prize. ; ).

119 posted on 07/26/2006 5:53:29 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: capt. norm
I would honestly like to see some good in what Goss did. Would you or some other poster be kind enough to enumerate his accomplishments? I am currently under the impression that he is/was a partisan hack, but am willing to be convinced otherwise.
Thanks
120 posted on 07/26/2006 5:54:08 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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