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To: coconutt2000

Why should the minute men exceede the standard. Just like everyone else they should supply the information when required. I have to give them credit for not just sitting on their butts waiting for other people to do "do something". If you think you can do better arm chair quarterback then cowboy up!


38 posted on 07/26/2006 5:15:37 PM PDT by interrogatorgirl
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To: interrogatorgirl
I have to give them credit for not just sitting on their butts waiting for other people to do "do something".

Self-government. The great fear of statists everywhere...

39 posted on 07/26/2006 6:19:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (If Mr. Bush won't enforce the laws against hiring them, they will come...)
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To: interrogatorgirl
I have to give them credit for not just sitting on their butts waiting for other people to do "do something".

Even if he's not "doing" what he has already said he's done?

43 posted on 07/26/2006 6:24:18 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: interrogatorgirl
Why should the minute men exceede the standard.

The primary requirement of a non-profit organization is to ensure the confidence of their contributors. If the parent organization can't bolster the confidence of those who contribute to them in money and volunteer time, then such contributions will dwindle. It is not asking too much for the organization to open their books so a few individuals can look over the books to see if there is anything to worry about. There are probably those among the volunteers with accounting experience who can do so, and if the bookkeeping is being done on a computer, then the records can be made available as digital copies, and copies of bank statements can be made available. The organization hasn't been around long enough to make faxing bank statements an onerous duty.

Just like everyone else they should supply the information when required.

These are serious and damaging allegations. It isn't asking too much for enough transparency to dispel allegations of mismanagement. Especially since if these allegations are allowed to last long enough, they'll damage the credibility of a lot of the good men and women as well as that of the anti-illegal immigration movement.

I have to give them credit for not just sitting on their butts waiting for other people to do "do something".

That isn't the current issue. The issue is whether or not allegations of mismanagement are true. That is a lot of money, and the volunteers deserve to know that the organization they're donating their time to is managing the resources donated to help them continue their work in an ethical and meaningful way.

If you think you can do better arm chair quarterback then cowboy up!

I never said I could manage it better. I offered my opinion of the best way to dispel the allegations. Merely allowing a few third party persons trusted on both sides to review the books would go a long way to reestablishing the necessary trust between the organization/movement and those who contribute.

Your final statement was insulting and had no bearing on what I said. I offered my opinions on a non-operations related activity. I did not offer an opinion on what the MM could do better to secure the border, or how they could manage their resources better. I only offered an opinion on how they could achieve enough transparency to restore trust in the organization swiftly, before the allegations mar the organization and the movement permanently in public opinion.

57 posted on 07/26/2006 6:57:54 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: interrogatorgirl
Why should the minute men exceede the standard. Just like everyone else they should supply the information when required.

It is very hard to raise money with a cloud of corruption over an organization's head. The loss of funds from donations will exceed the costs of any audit.

The STANDARD you refer to is for organizations and persons not accused of doing wrong. The STANDARD for persons and organizations accused of mishandling funds is to prove their innocence as fast as possible. The STANDARD for guilty persons and organizations is stall as long as legally possible.

Those are the STANDARDS. There are three of them..

396 posted on 07/27/2006 6:35:24 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: interrogatorgirl

>>>Why should the minute men exceed the standard?

When financial questions (or criticisms) are raised on non-profits, only published statements by independent auditors will calm the waters. It sounds like such financial statements have never been completed. Obviously the management of MM doesn't want any more contributions, otherwise they would have these statements ready to go.

Because "late" usually means "writedown" in accounting matters, any delay increases worries over issues of fraud. "Late" in this case means after the MM were attacked by MSM -- even though statements are not due.

Because it is to MM management's benefit to keep the funding going, the best choice would be to prepare and publish these documents. Because they haven't done so after all this criticism, I fear a bad financial scenario about to unfold. I hope it does not happen because such a sad event could pour cold water on the great results accomplished by the MM so far.


523 posted on 07/27/2006 11:09:06 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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