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Chris Simcox calls WT article "offensive" (John Gibson radio interview, transcript included)
John Gibson Radio Show | July 25, 2006 | John Gibson - Chris Simcox

Posted on 07/26/2006 12:00:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

Edited on 07/26/2006 7:34:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The John Gibson Show

GUEST: Chris Simcox

July 25, 2006

JOHN GIBSON, HOST: Chris Simcox joins us now. Chris Simcox, one of the founders of the--are you the, or one of the, founders of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, Chris?

CHRIS SIMCOX, FOUNDER, MINUTEMAN CIVIL DEFENSE CORPS: I’m the founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

GIBSON: OK. So, tell me about this situation with the Washington Times demanding you open the books. What’s happening with the Minutemen books?

SIMCOX: Well, the books are in great hands and in great shape. Last year, when we first incorporated, we hired professional escrow caging companies, accountants, you know, to create insulation between leadership and to make sure that the funds were properly accounted for. We’ve hired very astute professionals to do that, and our books are in fine shape.

I find it interesting that somebody would demand that we have to file our books before we’re even required to by the federal government. We will meet all federal regulatory obligations on November 15th, just as all other non-profit organizations are required to do in this country.

GIBSON: Chris, how to you account, then, for people quitting the organization, citing as problems with disclosure of the financial situation?

SIMCOX: I’m very disappointed in the reporter, Jerry Seper, for the Washington Times, who quoted people who had not been with this organization, John, for over a year. Those quotes from those people were taken out of context, and they were taken over a year ago from people who originally wanted to be part of the national leadership team, did not agree with the direction we were taking, and either quit or in some cases were terminated for violating SOP.

Those comments were all taken from interviews over a year ago. If you asked every one of our national leadership team from all of our 49 different chapters around this country, every one has signed a pledge of confidence in this organization.

GIBSON: Chris, Americans have donated 1.6 million to keep your organization going. They believe in your mission to secure the southern border. Do you believe you owe them an accounting of that money?

SIMCOX: Oh, of course! And that accounting will come when we’re required to do that, and we will post all of that information on our website, as well as, you know, with the IRS.

Listen, John, of all people in this country, our volunteers certainly come first. But people have to realize that we’re not idiots, I mean, we’re not stupid. Our number one enemy in this is the federal government, and we have made sure that every penny is accounted for, every penny has gone in the right direction to build this national organization, and that we will meet all obligations of the IRS, who obviously will be watching us, and has been watching us, carefully. They would love for us to make a mistake. And I’ve hired the best people that I could find in this country to make sure that this organization is rock-solid and is accountable for everything--which we have been.

The most offensive part of that interview, or, article in the Washington Times was making, insinuating that our operations have never received equipment. My gosh, I’m sitting in an office full of equipment. We have on-the-ground operations in eight border states, on the northern border and southern border, who have thousands of dollars of radio equipment, night-vision equipment, thermal imaging devices, and are well-funded and well-equipped.

That reporter, Jerry Seper, hasn’t even been to those border watch operations and seen the amount of equipment that we provide--and I find that very offensive and misleading, and it’s terrible journalism.

GIBSON: Well, it isn’t just him. ABC has also gotten into the fray. This is part of an ABC report.

[START AUDIO CLIP, ABC15 KNXV-TV IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA]

ABC15 REPORTER: Remember, Simcox told us the majority of the donations are supposed to be used down at the border, not just for food . . .

SIMCOX: . . . it also goes to provide equipment, radio equipment, night vision scopes, thermal imagining scopes, port-a-potties.

ABC15 REPORTER, QUESTION TO MINUTMAN: Where’s the port-a-potty?

MINUTEMAN: Ah, we don’t have a port-a-potty out here.

[END CLIP]

GIBSON: Chris, apparently, you’re being held to account on a lack of port-a-potties.

SIMCOX: [laughs]

Well, and again, that hit-piece from ABC was taken out of context. The reporter who actually did that report actually used our port-a-potties. That interview, of course, clever editing, was way out in the middle of nowhere on a scouting expedition, where the reporter asked the volunteer where the port-a-potties were--and of course we don’t have portable port-a-potties that we take with us everywhere we go. It was a set-up, and it’s terrible.

We have photographs on our website, and you could ask all of our volunteers at our headquarters operations, where our volunteers congregate, there are port-a-potties.

GIBSON: Chris, if I’ve got this straight, then, because I hate putting on green eyeshades and becoming an accountant. I’m not very good at it, I don’t claim any expertise. But what you’re saying is, the criticism coming from ABC, from the Washington Times, even from Michele Malkin, is premature, that you’re going to file the very things they’re asking for, and if they were merely patient, they would see the information they’ve been demanding.

SIMCOX: Absolutely. That’s absolutely correct. And, again, we have hired professionals to make sure of that accounting, and that accounting will be addressed, as every other organization that’s required to do, on November 15th. We’ll walk down the street naked and show everybody exactly where every penny is.

And they just need to be patient. You know, these things take time. We’ve even now had to go, John, and spend more money to hire another auditor to try to come up with some answers for people, even before we’re required to. And I’ll make that effort, of course, be criticized for the spending money on it, I’m sure.

GIBSON: Chris, of course the radio audience that we serve and that we like to talk with every night has been very interested in your issue, very interested and supportive of your mission on the southern border, and I think many of them have probably sent money, and they’re curious that it is being used correctly.

Are you assuring them right now that there is not going to be an issue over the accounting of this money at the time that you are required to account for it?

SIMCOX: I pledge my reputation on this issue, that, again, every penny is accounted for, every penny has gone to build this national organization. If you donated to the fence, the fence will be built, and is being built. And if you donated to Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, you have helped us push this issue to the forefront of American consciousness, and that we have volunteers on that border every week using that equipment, assisting border patrol, and helping to secure our borders.

GIBSON: Now, Chris, you’ve got to remember. Bob, here, running the board never erases a single word spoken on this show. These words will come back to haunt you, if they are not absolutely true.

SIMCOX: It’s one of the things I appreciate about radio, is that these live interviews, where you can tell the story and tell the truth, can’t be used out of context, as they can in print media or on television, to clever editing. You certainly can hold me accountable. I’ve been accountable for five years for this movement. We’ve been called everything, we’ve been attacked, and we’ve withstood the test of time, and we’ll withstand this challenge to our integrity and the credibility of this organization, and a lot of people are going to have egg on their face.

GIBSON: Chris Simcox.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; foxnews; gibson; immigrantlist; immigration; minutemen; simcox; simcoxkeyes2008; wt
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To: BigSkyFreeper
If you're going to proselythize to others online, at least spell "commandment" as "Commandment", and "old testiment" as "Old Testament"

LOL, you are correct.. My spelling is a low point in my design.. that combined with collective laziness in not remembering to hit the spell check after I hunt for scripture as fast as I can.

BTW... "Proselythize" is not a word according to dictionary.com .. did you mean "proselytize"?

381 posted on 07/27/2006 12:27:19 AM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: Texasforever; EternalVigilance
Back at ya http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-23,GGLG:en&q=L%2EN%2E+Smithee+Bushbots

Hit and every one of those links and you will find ZERO instances in which I have used the phrase "Bushbots."

Nice try, Tex. But not really.

To EternalVigilance: I love the sound of crickets in the evening.

382 posted on 07/27/2006 12:28:24 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hassan Nasrallah needs to be kicked in Hezbollahs)
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To: Howlin
BTW.. I apologize for the misspelling of your name, I promise it was NOT on purpose, and yes, I can see where you would find that rude of me.. I am ashamed I did it but I did. Hopefully the correct wires will connect and I will get it right in the future.
383 posted on 07/27/2006 12:36:03 AM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: LowOiL
Back it up "BIBLICALLY? What ARE you talking about?

It most assuredly is not now, or EVER, that I've ever said on FR or believed myself, that just because Jesus came, the OT no longer counted. That's what some posters on FR say. Personally, I think that they're nuts, but it IS what I have seen some post here. Ergo, my post, part of which you have CCPed stands as is and needs NO "backing up", "Biblically" or otherwise.

And since you so carefully CCPed my words, I suggest that you actually READ them, before you ask me a question that does NOT, in any way, pertain to what I said/posted.

384 posted on 07/27/2006 12:36:22 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
And since you so carefully CCPed my words, I suggest that you actually READ them, before you ask me a question that does NOT, in any way, pertain to what I said/posted.

Point taken, bitter pill swallowed. You were right, I misconscrewed your message in haste.

385 posted on 07/27/2006 12:40:04 AM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: LowOiL

I am getting sloppy, time for bed.


386 posted on 07/27/2006 12:44:43 AM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: LowOiL
Thank you so very much for your politeness, courtesy, honesty, and apology. Well done; well done, indeed! :-)

It's late and everyone is tired. We all make mistakes, but few accept the responsibility of them.

387 posted on 07/27/2006 12:45:13 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: LowOiL

Good night...........


388 posted on 07/27/2006 12:46:33 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: RGSpincich
There should have been a Minuteman filing, or accounting of their funds by Keyes in November 2005 if the they incorporated, as Simcox says, last year. By claiming to have to file by November 15, 2006 Simcox has established his fiscal year as ending on June 30, 2006. He had accepted donations long before June 30, 2005. Wonder where the accounting for that time period is?

That's worth asking again.

389 posted on 07/27/2006 5:35:40 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: catholicfreeper
IRS Reminds Charities to Avoid Campaign Activities

(July 17, 2006) The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) issued a reminder to charities to avoid political campaign involvement activities this election season. The reminder stems from the 2004 elections during which the IRS noticed an upturn in political activities on the part of 501(c)(3) organizations. The agency has since responded by increasing its educational efforts and launching an enforcement program, the Political Activity Compliance Initiative (PACI), to investigate specific, credible allegations of wrongdoing.

The IRS has put procedures into place for the 2006 election season to more quickly address instances of potential prohibited activity on the part of charities, churches and other tax-exempt organizations. The procedures are meant to ensure that public referrals as well as activities the IRS itself uncovers are reviewed expeditiously and treated in a consistent, fair and nonpartisan manner.

As a rule, charities, religious organizations, educational organizations and other groups that are tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the tax code may not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office. The IRS reminded charities that the prohibition means 501(c)(3) organizations may not endorse candidates, distribute statements for or against candidates, raise funds for or donate to candidates, or become involved in any activity that would be either supportive or opposed to any candidate.

Worth repeating, I thought.

Also again worth comparing the stated objectives of the Declaration Alliance PAC with what they tell the FEC about their work.

390 posted on 07/27/2006 5:53:15 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: Lurker
One day you will whether you want to or not.

So typical. Such ponitification.

When I do, it won't be to the likes of you.

391 posted on 07/27/2006 5:54:13 AM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
If anyone is responsible for Keyes losing to Barack Obama, it's Alan Keyes. In an act of desperation to gain footing in the polls, he shoots off his mouth spewing cock-eyed nonsense.

IMO, Keyes never intended to win.

It was all about name recognition and increasing donations to his 501s.

392 posted on 07/27/2006 5:54:41 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: nopardons
So, that beggars the question.....IS EV NOW BEING PAID BY SIMCOX, OR DO HIS SERVICES COME WITH SIMCOX'S NOW BEING UNDER KEYES' VAST UMBRELLA OF ORGANIZATIONS?

There's another question, too.

Simcox has said he isn't receiving a salary from the MCDC, but could he instead be paid by the Declaration Alliance or one of the other organizations involved here?

393 posted on 07/27/2006 5:59:02 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: EternalVigilance

bttt!


394 posted on 07/27/2006 6:05:54 AM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: Amelia
and increasing donations to his 501s.

And increasing names on his mailing lists; as I've come to realize, this isn't about the country, it's about mailing lists and the sale there of.

395 posted on 07/27/2006 6:30:32 AM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: interrogatorgirl
Why should the minute men exceede the standard. Just like everyone else they should supply the information when required.

It is very hard to raise money with a cloud of corruption over an organization's head. The loss of funds from donations will exceed the costs of any audit.

The STANDARD you refer to is for organizations and persons not accused of doing wrong. The STANDARD for persons and organizations accused of mishandling funds is to prove their innocence as fast as possible. The STANDARD for guilty persons and organizations is stall as long as legally possible.

Those are the STANDARDS. There are three of them..

396 posted on 07/27/2006 6:35:24 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator

Pithy, that...


397 posted on 07/27/2006 6:51:58 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Howlin
it won't be to the likes of you.

I never said it would be.

You seem a bit touchy. Did something hit a nerve?

L

398 posted on 07/27/2006 7:10:44 AM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: Lurker

Not at all.

In fact, I enjoy watching you all stroke yourselves with all your "Biblical" posturing.


399 posted on 07/27/2006 7:13:00 AM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Howlin
And increasing names on his mailing lists; as I've come to realize, this isn't about the country, it's about mailing lists and the sale there of.

Exactly.

Just as an aside, and I really don't want to get the thread off track again, IMHO the deal with Maya Keyes was designed to position her to start her own group of 501s to target those from the LEFT. Wouldn't wanna compete with Daddy, you know....and there are a bunch of "marks" on "the other side".....

400 posted on 07/27/2006 7:15:20 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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