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Verdict Reached in Andrea Yates Case (UPDATE: Not Guilty by reason of insanity)
KPRC Channel 2 ^

Posted on 07/26/2006 9:35:01 AM PDT by cajunman

HOUSTON -- Jurors reached a verdict in Andrea Yates' murder retrial Wednesday morning. The jury's decision will be announced at about 11:25 a.m. KPRC and Click2Houston will air the verdict live.

After deliberating nearly 11 hours, jurors returned for a third day Wednesday to determine if she was legally insane when she drowned her five children in the bathtub.

Before court ended Tuesday, the jury of six men and six women asked to review the state's definition of insanity: that someone, because of a severe mental illness, does not know a crime he is committing is wrong.

State District Judge Belinda Hill said jurors, who were sequestered for the second night, , could see the definition Wednesday morning.

Jurors have already deliberated longer than the nearly four hours it took a first jury, which convicted her in 2002. That conviction was overturned on appeal last year.

Yates, 42, has pleaded innocent by reason of insanity. She is charged in only three of the deaths, which is common in cases involving multiple slayings.

As court was to end Tuesday, jurors asked for one more hour to deliberate. But then the panel immediately passed another note rescinding that request. Hill quoted the note, which read, "We need some sleep," prompting laughs from those in the courtroom.

The jury earlier asked to review the videotape of Yates' July 2001 evaluation by Dr. Phillip Resnick, a forensic psychiatrist who testified for the defense that she did not know killing the children was wrong because she was trying to save them from hell.

Resnick told jurors that Yates was delusional and believed 6-month-old Mary, 2-year-old Luke, 3-year-old Paul, 5-year-old John and 7-year-old Noah would grow up to be criminals because she had ruined them.

Jurors later asked to review Yates' November 2001 videotaped evaluation by Dr. Park Dietz, the state's expert witness whose testimony led an appeals court to overturn Yates' 2002 capital murder conviction last year.

Dietz, a forensic psychiatrist, testified in her first trial that an episode of the television series "Law & Order" depicted a woman who was acquitted by reason of insanity after drowning her children. But no such episode existed. The judge barred attorneys in this trial from mentioning that issue.

On Tuesday, after jurors asked for the trial transcript involving defense attorney George Parnham's questioning of Dietz about the definition of obsessions, the judge brought the jury back into the courtroom.

The court reporter then read the brief transcript, in which Dietz said Yates "believed that Satan was at least present. She felt or sensed the presence." Dietz had testified that Yates' thoughts about harming her children were an obsession and a symptom of severe depression -- not psychosis.

Earlier Tuesday, jurors reviewed the slide presentation of the state's key expert witness, Dr. Michael Welner, a forensic psychiatrist who evaluated Yates in May. He testified that she did not kill her children to save them from hell as she claims, but because she was overwhelmed and felt inadequate as a mother.

Welner told jurors that although Yates was psychotic on the day of the June 2001 drownings, he found 60 examples of how she knew it was wrong to kill them.

If Yates is found innocent by reason of insanity, she will be committed to a state mental hospital, with periodic hearings before a judge to determine whether she should be released -- although by law, jurors are not allowed to be told that.

Yates will be sentenced to life in prison if convicted of capital murder.

A capital murder conviction in Texas carries either life in prison or the death penalty. Prosecutors could not seek death this time because the first trial's jurors sentenced her to life in prison, and authorities found no new evidence


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Texas
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To: roxybear
Would a sane person call the police?

I thought the definition of insane was not being able to tell right from wrong. The fact she called the police shows that she knew what she did was wrong. Case closed.

401 posted on 07/26/2006 12:50:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bone52
And she, who might I add, knows herself better than her husband, also consented

How can she consent to anything, she's "insane" remember

402 posted on 07/26/2006 12:51:31 PM PDT by Lil Flower ("Without Love, deeds, even the most brilliant, count as nothing." St. Therese of Lisieux)
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To: All

SHE WAS CRAZY AT THE TIME? FINE!

FRY HER IN A CLOWN SUIT!


404 posted on 07/26/2006 12:53:31 PM PDT by cdnerds (cdnerds.com)
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To: roxybear

LOL! Good question. A person with a conscience would. The definition of insane is the ability to distinguish right from wrong. If she called the police, she knew what she did was wrong. Plenty of people have called the police after killing someone.


405 posted on 07/26/2006 12:54:53 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: ClancyJ

"But, there is blame for the husband who failed to protect those children - he surely knew she was insane."

I've always thought that, as well. He should spend life in prison for murder by depraved indifference. Doctors told THEM she should have no more children -- that she couldn't deal with it emotionally. Mr. Macho, intent on spreading his seed, insisted. If anyone shouldn't be procreating it's this pig. They're both guilty. So she goes to jail and he moves on with his pathetic life with a new woman in tow. Disgusting.


406 posted on 07/26/2006 12:55:13 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Lil Flower
This woman is evil and that is not the same as insane. She knew exactly what she was doing.

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Lil Flower,

I was the charge nurse of a state psychiatric hospital for 2 years. Several women with post partum depression were admitted to my unit during that time.

I testify that these women were very, very mentally ill, hallucinating,frighteningly delusional, and in serious danger of suicide and absolutely incapable of being trusted with the care of any children.

Andrea already had one bout of post partum depression with a previous child. Her husband and extended family should have been counseled NOT to leave her alone with the children or alone by herself for even one minute. Did the medical personnel provide the needed counseling? This is how serious full blown post partum depression is.

I am very sorry for the poor children, Andrea, her husband, and the entire extended family. This is a tragedy that should have been prevented.
408 posted on 07/26/2006 12:56:34 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: roxybear
I wonder how much you really understand mental illness.

Please don't question my understanding of mental illness, I deal with it everyday.

410 posted on 07/26/2006 12:59:40 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Vote out the RINO's; volunteer to help get Conservative Republicans elected!)
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To: tessalu
tessalu,

I am so sorry. This is heartbreakingly sad. But,,,please remember that we have a Father in Heaven and in time, all that was lost will be restored to you and your daughter in full measure.
411 posted on 07/26/2006 1:01:16 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: bone52
From all of my experience with shrinks, I wouldn't listen to or trust them either.

Well, there you go. Perhaps had they listened to doctors orders her kids would still be alive.

That, while he did not physically hold the kids under the water, he was the force that drove his wife to this act.

Not the force A force. Do you really believe that he has no blame? And BTW, if my husband showed psychotic tendencies and the doctor told me no more kids - I'd be running to the nearest hospital for a snip. I wouldn't be messing with birth control - THAT is what a responsible adult does.

412 posted on 07/26/2006 1:03:53 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: wintertime
I testify that these women were very, very mentally ill, hallucinating,frighteningly delusional, and in serious danger of suicide and absolutely incapable of being trusted with the care of any children.

so can someone who is delusional, and hallucinating, make the decision to wait until their husband goes to work at 9:00 A.M., realizing that her mother in law is coming at 10:00 A.M., and systematically drown 5 children and then call the police? someone who is delusional and hallucinating cannot make a plan like that and then carry it out.

And again I ask, if she was hallucinating and delusional, what the hell was her husband doing having sex with her?

413 posted on 07/26/2006 1:07:23 PM PDT by Lil Flower ("Without Love, deeds, even the most brilliant, count as nothing." St. Therese of Lisieux)
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To: cajunman
What have they done?!!!
There is no justice.
The blood of the innocents cries out from the ground.
-- Genesis 4:10

414 posted on 07/26/2006 1:08:40 PM PDT by XR7
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To: cajunman

It is what it is, MURDER. She should be staring at striped sunlight instead of bouncing off rubber walls because she's mentally unstable. Charles Manson isn't serving life in a rubber room.


415 posted on 07/26/2006 1:08:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: roxybear
Andrea was psychotic

So is Charles Manson.

416 posted on 07/26/2006 1:10:57 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: roxybear

If she knew she did wrong and deserved to be punished, then yes.


417 posted on 07/26/2006 1:14:21 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Nearly 1% of illegals are in prison for felonies. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the legal population is.)
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To: TNdandelion

Sad. I would bet they thought "She thinks she is mentally unstable, so, of course, that means she is sane. The really crazy ones never think they are crazy".

Glad you two sought out help.


418 posted on 07/26/2006 1:19:00 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Involuntary term limits for all our representatives - I want them ALL OUT OF OFFICE.)
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To: tutstar

I think that abortion fits into this category as well...a lack of natural affection for that which grows inside a woman...willing to put her self interests above that of her unborn child--definitely a lack of natural affection, IMHO.


419 posted on 07/26/2006 1:23:07 PM PDT by nfldgirl ("I love a good rant every now-n-then!")
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To: LA Woman3
The court reporter then read the brief transcript, in which Dietz said Yates “believed that Satan was at least present. She felt or sensed the presence.”


I have no doubt that he was nearby.

This woman may need an exorcist as well as a psychiatrist.
420 posted on 07/26/2006 1:29:09 PM PDT by Deo volente
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