Posted on 07/26/2006 9:35:01 AM PDT by cajunman
I once read a book - "This Stranger My Son" in which a mother was raising a child with severe mental problems. As he grew older, he got violent against her and the family. She could find no options for help for extended time - especially when he reached 18. All his life she was faced with his illness causing him to be denied access to schools but with no options for handling him.
So very sad and very revealing about the inefficiencies of our mental health agencies.
Sometimes the ill one just has no place for help.
I agree - that man and his mother were the children's only hope if she was truly insane.
He should not be free of any responsibility.
I'm ready to move on to the medical malpractice lawsuits now. Where are those doctors that supposedly treated her?
May this woman rot in hell.
She did not have follow up plans for the severity of her illness. As I understood it the doctor felt she needed inpatient confinement. Further, the question will be asked of him how often he visits such a seriously ill person.
That's a travesty of justice.
YATES: I think that's a very good question. (snip....) "Andrea, the two medications she was on at the time of the tragedy are both on that list, Rimaron (ph) and Effexor, and in fact they're given in combination together, they have an even stronger effect than separately. So I definitely think the medication played a part, someone asked me once, why June 20, why did it happen on that day? Her medications were adjusted two days before. So I definitely believe that was a factor."
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I'm not dispelling the fact she killed her children. What I said is his actions are strange. The way he said he'd give her a hug and tell her congratulations, while never showing any emotions for the loss of their children. I can't help but think it is strange behavior.
I won't hijack this thread. Repeat, I won't hijack this thread.
HA! Nice. :)
Also, the Archbishop of my Archdiocese (Galveston Houston) has come out strongly against the death penalty. Another reason I oppose it.
CALLER: How're you doing? My question to Rusty is this. Prior to the killings of his children, did he ever try to get any help or treatment for his wife for any other illnesses?
YATES: Any other illnesses? No. Mental illness, yes. I mean, we -- you know, she -- we sought medical treatment for her in 1999. She was successfully treated at that time. And then again in 2001, when she became ill, we sought medical treatment for her. She was hospitalized twice in '99, twice again in 2001. We were in the psychiatrist's office two nights before the tragedy.
KING: Was she labeled what, schizophrenic? No?
YATES: They told me she had post-partum depression. That's what they told me, so...
I don't know, Shrink..??? Go figure..
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If people had the slightest clue to just how inadequate many state and local mental health services are, they would be outraged.
Six months before AY killed her children, I was dealing with severe PPD, but I wasn't pychotic. I can't and don't want to explain what I was going through but I was so tormented that I drove to the police station to turn myself in even though I hadn't committed any crime.
I was driven to a local hospital and dumped among the drunks and crack addicts (after they removed my shoe strings). A doctor came in, asked a few questions and told me that my problem was a lack of communication. Less than 12 hours later, I was released from the hospital on my own. My family was never contacted...I was literally dumped on the streets.
My story has a happy ending, though. I got appropriate medical help once MY husband came downtown and picked me up in the hospital lobby.
I told that doctor (and the police) that I was afraid I would kill myself and hurt my children. They were so concerned...they locked me in a room with drunks and released me a few hours later.
That, my friends, is quality "state run" mental healthy care in this country!
Because he shared a responsibility to protect his children, and he failed miserably.
I know what you're saying. But remember that "erring on the side of caution" could also result in the loss of innocent life, if the incarcerated person kills a prison guard, for example.
I don't believe that is true. A new trial is a trial de-novo. The findings of the last jury are irrelevant. It is as if there has been no previous trial. Her guilt was back on the table. Therefore if the latter jury had found her guilty, they would be free to impose whatever penalty that the prosecution had asked for.
Jude, you are still studying this stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong. But I do believe the prosecution could have requested the death penalty, they just didn't think they'd get it. They would have if I were on the jury.
"I despise that guy. I think he's pretty well responsible for everything. He'll get the justice in the long run, not helpless Andrea."
You are sick. As far as I can tell, he didn't drown any of the kids, and as far as I know, he didn't rape Andrea. They both made a decision to have sex, knowing full well what the consequences would be.
I find it so despicable that the spirit of feminism is so entrenched that even when the man did nothing wrong, he is still guilty. Sick.
Obviously there are conflicting reports............
I'd like to see a new category "Guilty, but dangerously insane" with a mandatory death penalty just the same.
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