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At San Francisco's Wharf, a Fight for Medical Marijuana Ensues (San Fran. goes NIMBY)
ABC Nightline website ^ | 7-25-06 | Jake Tapper and Dan Morris

Posted on 07/25/2006 10:01:22 PM PDT by VOA

ABC News: At San Francisco's Wharf, a Fight for Medical Marijuana Ensues

July 25, 2006 — San Francisco has more cannibus clubs — the dispensaries
of marijuana for the medical treatment of the nasty side effects of
chemotherapy, glaucoma or AIDS — than any other city in the nation.

Yet, that doesn't mean cannabis clubs make welcome neighbors, even in
bluest of the blue San Francisco, a city that prides itself on being
tolerant of almost every lifestyle.

(snip)

But the reality of the program is apparently harsher than the notion.
However accepting San Francisco may consider itself to be, the city
may also be showing standard-issue NIMBYism.

(snip)

Ten years ago, 56 percent of Californian voters supported Proposition
215, legalizing medical use of marijuana. But just try to find a
Californian today who wants a marijuana store in his neighborhood.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; californication; govwatch; greencross; hypocrites; libertarians; marijuana; mrleroybait; nimby; sanfran; sanfrancisco; wodlist
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The video of this report was on ABC Nightline tonight (7-25-06).
I only saw the last couple fo minutes, but it was a delicious portrait
in liberal hypocrisy.
The NIMBYS fighting the Green Cross center sounded conflicted...
but were dead-set against having a medical marijuana distribution center
in their neighborhood.
LOL! They sounded more like they were in The Bible Belt, not in
the rainbow city of San Francisco!
1 posted on 07/25/2006 10:01:24 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA

bump for publicity


2 posted on 07/25/2006 10:03:10 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA

bump


3 posted on 07/25/2006 10:14:01 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA

I'm sure, as with many of society's sorts, that you meet a completely different breed of pot head in San Fran.

The same applies to the "urban pioneers" who have been fooled into believing that any inner city, much less SF or Midtown Atlanta is an ideal place to raise a family.

All of this would be resolved if we could look at pot laws like GWB and the RINOs look at immigration law enforcement. It goes something like this, "Yeah, it's illegal and all, but hey, it ain't like y'all's settin' out meanin' to hurt folks.".

We would be far better served if the manpower and funds spent overflying all the houses in the USA thrice a year looking for reefer were spent on the southern border looking for (and arresting, detaining and deporting) trespassers on the American Dream.


4 posted on 07/25/2006 10:21:36 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: VOA

Some time back, the residents of Haight-Ashbury forced the kitchens for the homeless out of Golden Gate Park and on to Turk Street, which at the time was definitely not a nice or safe place.


5 posted on 07/25/2006 10:23:39 PM PDT by claudiustg (dou•ble•think ('d&-b&l-"thi[ng]k), noun, 1949: a simultaneous belief in two contradictory ideas.)
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To: Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; Annie03; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
6 posted on 07/25/2006 10:25:04 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Wolfie

ping


7 posted on 07/25/2006 10:25:17 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: VOA

In the prior article about this issue, among the reasons for even liberal people at this point being fed up with this bunk is these shops have brought more crime and drug dealing to those areas.

Also helps ruin local tourism.


8 posted on 07/25/2006 10:28:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
You mean there is a DOWNSIDE to the miracle of medicinal marijuana?

/ sarcasm

9 posted on 07/25/2006 10:29:38 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: robertpaulsen; A CA Guy; Mojave

i might as well ping you to this thread now you ll stumble onto it eventually anyhow and heck i just cant miss the fun of you guys telling the board how its actually really neato that sick patients are having a hard time getting the medicine that works for them cause of the nimby attitude so please share the love i know the thought brings a smile to your faces


10 posted on 07/25/2006 10:32:34 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: VOA

Oh.. this is so rich. Thanks for posting this!


11 posted on 07/25/2006 10:36:56 PM PDT by BamaGirl (The Framers Rule!)
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To: BamaGirl

On a rare occasion, I smoked some ganga the other day. It just got me all disorientated and ruined a night of sleep.


12 posted on 07/25/2006 10:40:27 PM PDT by Crooked Constituent
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To: VOA
Proposition 215 does not allow for the sale of medical marijuana. It is against California state law. Simply arrest those who do.

If California refuses to enforce their own laws, then let them wallow in their own filth.

13 posted on 07/26/2006 5:01:02 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: VOA

I don't use drugs except alcohol here and there... But I do support legalization and taxation on all drugs... Adults have the right to do whatever they want in their own home as long as it doesn't threaten or harm another. It would virtually eliminate crime and provide ultra high tax revenues for the government.


14 posted on 07/26/2006 6:31:38 AM PDT by Element187
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To: BamaGirl
Oh.. this is so rich.

That's the reason I posted...just for the beauty of the liberal hypocrisy.
As in Ted Kennedy stonewalling a windfarm next to his ocean-side estate.
15 posted on 07/26/2006 6:48:03 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Element187
"I don't use drugs except alcohol here and there... But I do support legalization and taxation on all drugs... Adults have the right to do whatever they want in their own home as long as it doesn't threaten or harm another. It would virtually eliminate crime and provide ultra high tax revenues for the government."

While your intent is admirable, the price of drugs would plummet as they were legalized which would reduce the amount of tax revenue the government could capture. Crime is a little trickier than you make it out to be. IMO net crime would reduce, however their would be marked increases in certain types of crime probably mostly misdemeanors. I would think that we would trade murder and drug trafficking for DUI, drunk and disorderly, and the like. Especially up front.
16 posted on 07/26/2006 7:27:30 AM PDT by xpertskir (McCain Lieberman '08(democratic ticket))
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To: VOA
The NIMBYS fighting the Green Cross center sounded conflicted...
but were dead-set against having a medical marijuana distribution center in their neighborhood


LOL...What hype!!!
They don't want a Cannabis Club on Fisherman's Wharf.
"Bay Area cannabis clubs have restricted locations. They are no longer allowed to be within 1,000 feet of a school or community center. They are barred from certain residential neighborhoods. And every club has to go through a registration process, with a $10,000 application fee."
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17 posted on 07/26/2006 8:38:23 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: xpertskir
"the price of drugs would plummet as they were legalized"

Maybe not as much as you think. In Amsterdam, pot goes for around $10/gr. (about $300/oz.). Legal medical marijuana in California goes for $480/oz., without tax.

I daresay street marijuana is cheaper. And trying to collect the tax on millions of home growers would require a government agency 10X the size of the DEA.

18 posted on 07/26/2006 8:40:55 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Saying that pot is legal in the Netherlands or medical pot is legal in Calfiornia is assanine, at least in the sense of virtually any other product that is legal. In both instances, supplying it is still ridiculously expensive, as it is illegal to grow it in any sort of quantity that would increase supply and reduce price.

If growing tobacco were made illegal in pretty much the world, but possession and sale of it were still legal, the price of tobacco would skyrocket, way past the even $6 a pack or whatever they cost in the states that tax the hell out of tobacco.

Hell, replace tobacco and use tomatoes or lettuce or whatever you want in that analogy. When you restrict the supply, by whatever means, the price goes up, especially if there is a great demand, and especially if the risk of procuring the supply is high.

19 posted on 07/26/2006 7:33:52 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: Nate505
"Saying that pot is legal in the Netherlands or medical pot is legal in Calfiornia is assanine, at least in the sense of virtually any other product that is legal."

Legal and regulated, unlike tomatoes and lettuce. And pot would be regulated. You do that, and you start driving up the price right there.

You'd have licensed growers, licensed manufacturers, licensed sellers, federal inspections at every level, manufacturer's provisions for lawsuits, etc., all adding to the price. Then start adding taxes at every level of government.

"In both instances, supplying it is still ridiculously expensive, as it is illegal to grow it in any sort of quantity that would increase supply and reduce price."

You're reaching.

Sure, increased quantity would reduce costs. But what are we talking about? Reducing the cost from $3 per plant to $1 per plant? On a product selling for $300 per ounce?

"the price of tobacco would skyrocket, way past the even $6 a pack or whatever they cost in the states that tax the hell out of tobacco."

In New York, it's over $8 per pack. Now you tell me why that is so. Tobacco is as cheap to grow as marijuana. When I was younger, I remember paying 35 cents per pack, and I thought that was a lot. There's no reason cigarettes should cost $8 per pack. But they do.

So let's not get all cocky talking about legal marijuana being cheap. I gave you the two best examples of legal marijuana, and the legal selling price isn't even close to the actual cost of producing it. It's actually less illegally, and those dealers have more risks.

20 posted on 07/27/2006 4:45:31 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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