Starting with Calhoun, no 19th century group was more out of touch with reality than the SC elite. Too bad for them they couldn't fight a war as well as they could make a sneak attack on an unsuspecting senator.
Posted on 07/25/2006 10:19:23 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
Unless lawmakers remove the Confederate flag from the State House grounds, the road to the College World Series could become longer for Clemson, South Carolina and the state’s other schools.
An NCAA subcommittee is re-examining the flag issue after the head of the Black Coaches Association questioned why Clemson hosted regional and super regional games before advancing to Omaha this past season.
In 2002 the NCAA implemented a two-year moratorium prohibiting schools in South Carolina from hosting any pre-assigned championships. A year later the NCAA extended the ban indefinitely.
Now BCA executive director Floyd Keith wants college athletics’ chief governing body to consider broadening the ban to keep all postseason contests out of the state.
“At least from our viewpoint, there should not be any postseason events awarded,” Keith said Friday during a telephone interview.
Robert Vowels, commissioner of the Southwestern Athletic Conference and chair of the NCAA’s Minority Opportunities and Interests Committee, said an eight-person subcommittee plans a teleconference in the coming months to discuss the issue. The group wants to review the original moratorium and the selection process for championship sites in sports such as baseball and tennis, in which the highest-seeded schools often are chosen as hosts.
“The main thing is understanding the selection process and just seeing what’s what,” Vowels said. “Once we can understand processes, then we can go from there.”
The NCAA maintains the same postseason ban in Mississippi, which incorporates the Confederate flag into its state flag.
Greenville’s Bi-Lo Center hosted first- and second-round games of the NCAA men’s basketball tournament in 2002 because the bid had been awarded before the ban took effect.
Since then, however, South Carolina has lost out on several NCAA-sanctioned events.
• A cross-country regional that Furman had hosted for 21 years was moved.
• The ACC pulled its baseball tournament out of Fort Mill in 2003.
• Officials with USC and the Bi-Lo Center were turned down after submitting bids to serve as first- and second-round sites for the NCAA men’s basketball tourney.
“March Madness is March Sadness in South Carolina because there will be no March Madness here. And the NAACP is in lockstep with it,” said Lonnie Randolph, the NAACP state president.
Lawmakers have not addressed the flag issue since 2000, when a legislative compromise moved the flag from atop the Capitol dome to a Confederate monument on the north side of the State House grounds. Beginning in 1999, the NAACP asked African-Americans to boycott South Carolina’s tourism industry, an effort Randolph said would continue until the flag comes down.
In the meantime, the only postseason games that have been staged in the state have been at the conference level. While aware of the NCAA’s moratorium, the SEC allows its schools from South Carolina and Mississippi to submit proposals to host the conference’s neutral-site championships.
The SEC held its 2005 women’s basketball tournament in Greenville after a scheduling conflict at Atlanta’s Philips Arena forced organizers to look for an alternative site. This past fall the SEC cross country championships were run at Fort Jackson.
However, despite attractive arenas in Greenville and Columbia, event organizers across the state have had their hands tied when it comes to trying to host games in the lucrative NCAA men’s basketball tournament.
Said Randolph: “(Basketball fans) don’t drop pennies in your community. They drop millions of dollars in your community.”
Vowels said his subcommittee would study the issue of extending the NCAA’s ban to include all postseason events and would make a recommendation to the NCAA’s executive committee by the end of the year.
Even if no changes are made, Keith, the BCA director, believes the ban has been effective in drawing attention to the flag.
“It’s certainly an issue of awareness that has been supported and embraced by the NCAA. That in itself is a positive step from our platform,” Keith said. “Is it completely eradicated or something we can say it’s done? No. The issue is still there.”
It's hard for some to realize that, but many also tend to forget that black southerners are just as much southern as white southerners. Regardless of numbers, it took a lot of conviction and effort for southerners to join the Union army as opposed to the many thousand of reluctant conscripts and later enthusiastic deserters forced into the reb army.
To appreciate basketball it's necessary to look beyond superficials. Not every NBA player looks like Allen Iverson. And beyond the streetball facade, there is still some real basketball players like Tim Duncan, Lebron James and Dewayne Wade. And for sustained drama, there's still nothing that beats the NCAA tournament.
Starting with Calhoun, no 19th century group was more out of touch with reality than the SC elite. Too bad for them they couldn't fight a war as well as they could make a sneak attack on an unsuspecting senator.
I think it's more the fact that FSU is a Division I football powerhouse and generates a lot of TV revenue that caused the NCAA to back off rather than anything the Seminole Nation had to say. Money, after all, talks. And as another poster pointed out small schools seem to still have to fight.
Never happened. Watie lie #25398
Seems to me that the consequences mostly fell on y'all.
(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)
In general, there's a lot of great things about the people of the South. But the CSA and the segregation regimes are not among the positives about Dixie. The CSA is not the South-not even in the 1860s.
But then I think most of your posts are for effect anyway. ;>)
Somebody else has found me out! :)
see, you CAN post TRUTHFUL things, when you're not trying to defend the INdefensible horrors visited on the south's civilians & helpless POWs, by the "filth that flowed down from the north"!
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CONSERVATIVES of ANY skin-tone are NOT welcome.
the naaLcp is nothing more or less than a party organ for the LUNATIC fringe of the DIMocRATS party.
i USED to be a member of the NAACP, before they threw us "right wing,pro-gun,pro-life,Indians" out. Indians are just too traditional, family-oriented & CONSERVATIVE as a group to be DIMocRATS and/or to please the LEFTISTS that run the naaLcp!
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otoh, some here like "m.eSPINola" ARE that DUMB!
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i agree, but then i despise "bounceball" with a passion.
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I post truth all the time. You just prefer to cling to your myth.
the DYs who run the networks don't care a damn about what the Seminole Nation wants/thinks/believes. it's JUST about $$$$$$$$$$$$.
haven't you ever noticed that ANYTHING is A-OK with the mainSLIME media, if it sells soap/beer/cars/etc.???
may i remind you/all that the Bible says that : THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!
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That's like the liberals claiming they are strong on defense or they support Christianity. It's just lip service. Easy to see through that charade, but it will hook some folks.
rather it was ONE of MANY atrocities (committed by your "crusaders in blue"), which are called CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY by the internationally-recognised Law of War.
i've offered numerous times to take you to see the lines of tombstones. each one says: MURDERED BY YANKEES.
sadly, i must tell you that our family is FAR from unique. such slaughters of "persons of colour", Jews,Asians, Roman Catholics, Latinos & "the poorest of the poor whites" was COMMONPLACE.
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Yes, my friend. These ppl keep cursin' their daddies 'cause they ain't born in the South. We have a great lineage of statesmen and warriors, free-thinkers, strong women, and independent patriots to be proud of.
The big government fools 'round here want to focus on slavery, but friend, the South is about family, church, good humor, fried chicken, and sweet tea. I can tell you a million things I love about the South, let those other people focus on one or two bad things. Their loss.
the SCALAWAGS are turncoats to their family, their state & the southland.
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