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(Field) Poll finds Californians' glass half full
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 7/25/06 | John Marelius

Posted on 07/25/2006 9:24:51 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Carry_Okie
"he is more of a liability to conservative goals than is Angelides"

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Let me make sure your position is that you consider Angelides better for conservatives than Arnold.

You sound like this kind of "conservative"

But there seems to be a new “Republicans vote on Wednesday” taking form in time for the 2006 election. This effort targets grassroots conservatives known for their passionate views about issues who may be open to a grassroots voting rebellion. But the effort is being led, or at the very least aided, by liberals pretending to be grassroots conservatives, as opposed to actual grassroots conservatives themselves.

The premise follows a scheme previously found most often on talk radio programs: a liberal activist calls a conservative radio host, such as Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham, and delivers the line: “I’ve been voting Republican for 30 years, but I’ve finally had it and I’m not voting this year.” Or my favorite: “I’m a Reagan Republican, but I’m fed up and voting for John Kerry.” (Because that is what Reagan Republicans would do, vote for John Kerry.) At this point, the host usually asks a couple of questions and it becomes painfully obvious that the supposed Reagan Republican has probably never voted for anyone left of Michael Dukakis.

The intentions are clear: the caller hopes to make it appear as though there is already a large uprising of conservatives who are rebelling against GOP candidates, and thus, wishes to incite other Republicans to pick up the same attitude and pass it along, leading to the Democrat becoming more competitive. The successes of such a strategy on voting habits are unclear, especially given that the conservative radio host often refutes the caller’s talking points.

But the pretend-conservative act is being carried onto a whole new playing field, one that has become wildly influential over the past few years and one that does not stand to be instantly recognized as a fake. That playing field is the blogosphere, which is then used in conjunction with massive e-mailings to “spread the word” (as one e-mailer insisted I do to my readers/e-mail list) to other conservatives.

The concept is the same: the blog or e-mail claims, first, that the said writer has been a conservative for years and that they have “had it with Republicans.” They then point to an issue that conservatives would likely be upset about such as excessive spending, immigration, or the expansion of government. Their supposed rage over the issue has convinced them to either not show up to vote in 2006, or, in order to really show Republicans, vote for the Democrat instead.

61 posted on 07/25/2006 7:14:59 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Excellent post #47


62 posted on 07/25/2006 7:15:51 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: calcowgirl; Czar; Amerigomag; heleny; kellynla; Paloma_55
"...campaign on a "joint ticket"?"

Yeah! That's the ticket!! Git that picture of Schwartzie takin a big toke on a joint with his eyes all glassy as their campaign poster!!!

That's the kind of "joint ticket" we oughta be seein!!!

63 posted on 07/25/2006 7:18:41 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Memo To: Uncle Sam Re: Terrorists, Insurgents and Illegal Combatants...NoUniforms... No Prisoners!!!)
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To: doodlelady
Yes, you have.

Nice that you can read my mind. If what you mean is that I won't vote for Arnold, that is correct. Although I have decided what I won't do, I haven't decided what I will do.

Not for those who trust Tom.

I trust his integrity, but not his political judgment.

64 posted on 07/25/2006 7:24:56 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: FairOpinion
Let me make sure your position is that you consider Angelides better for conservatives than Arnold.

I see you have still failed to make your case FOR Arnold. There is an obvious reason: you know how weak that case really is.

65 posted on 07/25/2006 7:26:40 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

You sir, are completely and exactly CORRECT!!!


66 posted on 07/25/2006 7:26:49 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Memo To: Uncle Sam Re: Terrorists, Insurgents and Illegal Combatants...NoUniforms... No Prisoners!!!)
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To: FairOpinion

I know all I need to know about both of them.


67 posted on 07/25/2006 7:28:54 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby
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To: FairOpinion

So? I still don't like Swartzenegger.

Tom can vote for him if he wants. I'm not.


68 posted on 07/25/2006 7:30:15 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby
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To: Carry_Okie
... If what you mean is that I won't vote for Arnold, that is correct. ...

Meaning you haven't deciced to vote for the demoncrap or some other punative vote? I don't believe you, Karaoke, I think you'll prove your campaigning for demoncraps by casting your vote for them as well. You're at the forefront of the ilk herd.

69 posted on 07/25/2006 7:36:35 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Carry_Okie; .38sw; 359Henrie; 1 FELLOW FREEPER; 101viking; 1IDVET; 1lawlady; ...
"Interestingly, voters like the results of conservative governance as Reagan's and Deukmejian's landslides easily attest."

Certainly nothing being served up by Arnold can pass for 'conservative governance,' so I suspect that his bright prospects for reelection stem from the sheer dread of the thought of Pill Angelides as governor. That hateful little gargoyle has become concentrated Rino-power.

Californians: Please Read post 49

70 posted on 07/25/2006 7:56:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: calcowgirl
Weren't they going to campaign on a "joint ticket"?

That was back when Arnold was worried...

71 posted on 07/25/2006 7:59:26 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Only 8 percent of Republicans said they would vote for Angelides."

What kind of republican would voe for a man who promised to raise taxes?

72 posted on 07/25/2006 8:00:59 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: Carry_Okie
If what you mean is that I won't vote for Arnold,

No, you want to sully anyone who will, including Tom McClintock.

Although I have decided what I won't do, I haven't decided what I will do.

Yes, you have. You will allow an Angelides win.

73 posted on 07/25/2006 8:01:41 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bad news for Philth!


74 posted on 07/25/2006 8:04:06 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: doodlelady

You know... your pom poms are gittin a little tattered...


75 posted on 07/25/2006 8:09:21 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Memo To: Uncle Sam Re: Terrorists, Insurgents and Illegal Combatants...NoUniforms... No Prisoners!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

Have you contributed to any candidates in this election?
Do you support Tom?


76 posted on 07/25/2006 8:11:41 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: doodlelady

That is absolutely none of your beeswax!!! It's a secret ballot in case you "New Majority" Party muddled moderate cheerleaders with your frazzled pom-poms can't remember that far back!!!


77 posted on 07/25/2006 8:15:10 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Memo To: Uncle Sam Re: Terrorists, Insurgents and Illegal Combatants...NoUniforms... No Prisoners!!!)
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To: Rockitz

Philth - Excellent, I like that!


78 posted on 07/25/2006 8:15:19 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: SierraWasp
That is absolutely none of your beeswax!!! ...

Yeah, yeah, sure. Or is it that everytime one of you ilk come out and admit you're going to vote for the demonrat you become fully outted.

79 posted on 07/25/2006 8:16:56 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
" I think you'll prove your campaigning for demoncraps by casting your vote for them as well. You're at the forefront of the ilk herd."

I don't always agree completely with what cary_okie says, but I know for sure that the above statement is way out of line. He spends more time researching facts than 90% of California freepers put together, and is not known for rash symbolic acts.

80 posted on 07/25/2006 8:18:28 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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