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CA - Campaign 2006: Costly contest over oil tax plan (Prop. 87)
Sacramento Bee ^ | July 23, 2006 | Laura Mecoy

Posted on 07/24/2006 11:20:29 AM PDT by calcowgirl

The Proposition 87 campaign is shaping up into a big bucks battle between big oil companies and "no oil" investors and environmentalists.

Chevron and other major energy producers are fueling the drive to defeat the November ballot measure that would impose a severance tax on California oil production to pay for alternative energy.

Venture capitalists with multimillion-dollar investments in "greentech," meanwhile, have joined forces with environmentalists to finance the campaign to create the $4 billion fund for alternative energy.

Proposition 87 would impose a tax on California oil producers of 1.5 percent to 6 percent, depending on the per-barrel price of oil. The tax would produce up to $4 billion to provide loans, grants and incentives to buy alternative-fuel vehicles, develop new forms of energy, train workers in the field and educate the public about alternative energy.

The "No on 87" campaign is far ahead in fundraising, having collected more than $10.5 million, almost all of it from the oil and gas industry.

The "Yes on 87" campaign has collected nearly $4.8 million, with most of the money coming from venture capitalists or environmentalists.

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The state's three largest oil producers -- Chevron, Aera Energy LLP and Occidental Petroleum Corp. -- have donated more than $9.1 million of more than $10.5 million collected so far.

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On the other side, the top three contributors are venture capitalists who have significant investments in alternative energy and an environmentalist. Together, they've donated nearly $3 million of the $4.8 million collected so far.

Vinod Khosla . . . Kleiner Perkins . . . more than $1.1 million . . .

John Doerr . . . Kleiner Perkins . . . $950,000.

It's also picking up significant contributions and leadership from environmental activists. Most notable is campaign co-chairman Stephen L. Bing.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calinitiatives; election2006; energy; johndoerr; prop87; stephenbing; vinodkhosla
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1 posted on 07/24/2006 11:20:30 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

NO on 87
http://www.nooiltax.com

YES on 87
http://www.yeson87.org


2 posted on 07/24/2006 11:21:20 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Haven't they figured it out? It's just passed to consumers.


3 posted on 07/24/2006 11:21:42 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio
Haven't they figured it out? It's just passed to consumers.

Yes. But in the process, a good amount flows to venture capitalists investing in "greentech."

The state of California is the new Venture Capitalist piggy bank, enabled by the initative process.
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4 posted on 07/24/2006 11:25:15 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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This will cause the closing of marginal fields and preclude the investment required for new drilling or rehabilitation.


5 posted on 07/24/2006 11:25:59 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (999-TNS)
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To: mysterio
"Haven't they figured it out? It's just passed to consumers."

Total tax on gasoline in California is $.50/gal. This tax is exceeded by only two other states, Hawaii and Nevada.

yitbos

6 posted on 07/24/2006 11:32:50 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: calcowgirl
Well heck I guess that we aren't paying enough in California for gas right now. So the idiots are wanting to pay more.
7 posted on 07/24/2006 11:34:23 AM PDT by VanB
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To: calcowgirl
Gee...
Decisions decisions...

Let me think...
Create a huge new welfare bureaucracy under the guise of "alternative energy" and the "innocent sounding" "subsidies"?
Or allow market forces once more to find the most profitable alternatives with no government interference?

Ummmmmm. Let me think. Ummmmm.
I'll get back to you!

8 posted on 07/24/2006 11:34:26 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: calcowgirl

California did just fine a few years back without electricity, I imagine they don't really need fuel either.


9 posted on 07/24/2006 11:45:32 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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"Create a huge new welfare bureaucracy under the guise of "alternative energy" and the "innocent sounding" "subsidies"?

Yes, the taxpayers as always are being asked to "authorize" a new tax (surprise, surprise), to go along with increasing their price for EITHER of the energy supplies, i.e., oil or greenie-fuel.

No magic here; just as the energy companies for ALL types of energy now OWN the politicians, and compete for tax dollars through Lobbyists, then pass any costs on to their consumers, so we have yet another effort to effectively raise their prices AND get taxdollars, too.

This lobbyist/taxpayer/consumer enterprise has become "the American Way" of doing business......WAKE UP AMERICA....

10 posted on 07/24/2006 11:47:17 AM PDT by traditional1
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I might support an additional tax on oil, as long as that oil is produced from drilling off California's shore. Perhaps the state could consider offshore drilling leases, with the proceeds going to fund alternative energy. Perhaps the state could just ask for a general increase in the sales tax, so the burden could be shared among the population. The reason they want to tax oil companies is that they have been demonized by the Democrats for so long that they appear a natural target.


11 posted on 07/24/2006 11:49:48 AM PDT by webheart (Have a nice day!)
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Nothing like laying a tax on one industry to subsidize a competitor. That's a real fair tactic. Let's tax McDonald's and give the proceeds to Burger King for expansion. There is no difference in the concept. Corrupt politicians attacking private business to do the bidding of their compaign contributors.

I think the oil companies should cut production as necessary to shield themselves from this unfair behavior. The oil will still be in the ground when the corrupt politicians get the message.

12 posted on 07/24/2006 11:53:59 AM PDT by Myrddin
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There is no need for alternat forms of energy.

Remove all the subsidies and we won't have to hear about that trash any more.


13 posted on 07/24/2006 11:55:22 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Myrddin
compaign campaign
14 posted on 07/24/2006 11:56:30 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: mysterio
Haven't they figured it out? It's just passed to consumers.

In a market like crude oil, price of product is based upon supply and demand, not cost plus expenses. If oil sells for $70 a barrel, it doesn't mater if it cost you $10 to bring it to market or $50. Nobody will pay more because the producer paid more. The commodity is fungible.

What taxes like this do is encourage producers to invest their capital somewhere else like Russia. There they can make more money from their investment. But then the US doesn't get the taxes and royalty payments.

15 posted on 07/24/2006 12:13:42 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: calcowgirl

By the time big oil pours millions of dollars into this campaign, the voters will think yes is no and no is yes. This measure has no chance of passing.


16 posted on 07/24/2006 12:58:48 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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In a market like crude oil, price of product is based upon supply and demand, not cost plus expenses.

That's a scream. When can I catch your stand up act?
17 posted on 07/24/2006 1:26:09 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it doesn't work. If oil companies could charge any price regardless of demand, 1998~99 oil prices would never have happened.


18 posted on 07/24/2006 4:10:40 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: calcowgirl
Just one more automatic NO.

Problem solved.

19 posted on 07/24/2006 4:17:58 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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I guess the "hurricanes/unrest/a third world dictator got indigestion" excuses were downplayed that year. It's ok, though. The high prices will hopefully spur a market alternative. It would be nice to see some competition in the energy sector.
20 posted on 07/24/2006 6:41:38 PM PDT by mysterio
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