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This is a long piece, but worth the read for all the solid info in it. go read it and have some weapons agaisnt the religion haters who want to destroy religion in America.
1 posted on 07/24/2006 11:08:41 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

It is in the Constitution... I googled it.

Article 52 states, “the church is separated from the state”. Section 1, Article 14 states, “...shall be a secular state. No religion may be instituted as state-sponsored or mandatory religion. Religious associations shall be separated from the state,” Also in the 1918, the 1924 and 1936 Constitution of the ......USSR.

....Oh wait wrong Constitution.... Sorry (/sarc)


2 posted on 07/24/2006 11:15:27 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X = they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
If we can separate Church and State, then why not separate Morality and State?
3 posted on 07/24/2006 11:15:59 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Within a few years "hate" speech laws will be used by the ACLU to drive organized religions to the margins of society. They are already doing a good job doing that with their lawsuits.

In two to three generations organized religion as we know it will cease to exist. Churches will be museums and restaruants. Christians will meet on Sundays in quiet so as to not attract attention. Probably in private homes.

In recent years RICO statutes have been applied to quash anti-abortion organizers, such laws will soon be applied to other "anti-humanity" groups including Christians.

It's gonna be a brave new world.


4 posted on 07/24/2006 11:16:17 AM PDT by kjo
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To: Mobile Vulgus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1642305/posts


5 posted on 07/24/2006 11:17:15 AM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Mobile Vulgus
I have a copy of the text of Jefferson's letter. He doesn't even get to that point until about halfway through.

Most people don't realize that most of the original states had an official religion, and the 1st Amendment was meant to prevent Congress from declaring the same for the entire country, thus pitting the states against each other.
6 posted on 07/24/2006 11:18:07 AM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Interesting! bookmarked


7 posted on 07/24/2006 11:20:34 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Mobile Vulgus

The First Amendment is supposed to protect religious freedom from the state, but anti-Christian bigots have distorted it into a state tool against religious expressions they don't like.


17 posted on 07/24/2006 12:14:34 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Mobile Vulgus
"Only elected president of the United States but two years preciously, (1800–1808) "

Correct me if I'm wrong... the guy needs an editor, Yes?

20 posted on 07/24/2006 12:27:47 PM PDT by chris_ab
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To: Mobile Vulgus; All

We no longer have "separation of church and state".

Secular Humanism is a religion and through the leftist activists in the Judiciary Secular Humanism is rapidly becoming the official, orthodox state religion of the United States.

Principles of the Securlar Humanist religion are dominent in and enforced at all levels of education, and they dominate on issues of the public displays of religion and the recognition of religion in public life.

The "cardinals" of the Secular Humanism religion reside in the ACLU. Their "popes" are the friends and associates of those "cardinals". The Secular Humanism "popes" are placed in the Judiciary with the support of their leftist and liberal friends in the legislatures (they deliver the recommendations to the liberals/leftists in the executive branch).

The Secular Humanism "popes" now sit and dominate at our highest Judicial positions and they continually change the meaning of "separation of church and state" to obliterate any historical or traditional understanding of that phrase in their agenda to impose the value system of Secular Humanism on the population.


21 posted on 07/24/2006 12:28:18 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Mobile Vulgus

No it does not exist because evolution is a religion.


22 posted on 07/24/2006 12:28:29 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (More and more churches are nada scriptura.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

freedom of religion bump


23 posted on 07/24/2006 12:35:03 PM PDT by Reddy (America, Bless God!)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Great find, thank you


32 posted on 07/24/2006 1:44:54 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (The time to slay RINOs is in the primaries, come game time though it's time to slay the REAL LIBS)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

I guess I am just a lucky one but I never experienced this separation of church and state. I went to Catholic School and Catholic Church all through school and adulthood. The Navy has us pray during ceremonies and even every night before taps. I just don't see everyones nervousness over this. I think it is an issue that causes some folks to have an ulcer.


33 posted on 07/24/2006 1:56:16 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Just tell them you want the same kind of separation between church and state that they maintain between interstate and intrate commerce.


36 posted on 07/24/2006 3:43:28 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Secularists today have a catch phrase that they use like a club against religion in America. That club is named "The Separation of Church and State." So many Americans have heard the phrase that they think it is one actually written right into the Constitution of the United States.

Some body needs to inform Mr. Warner Todd Huston that it ain't the "phrase" that is being used against civil authority over religion. Its the "intellectual content of the legal doctrine of "no civil authority over religion" that the phrase was attached to, by the Supreme Court in 1878, that is being use against Counterfeit Christians like Huston.

There ain't nobody stupid enough to believe the phrase in question is in the Constitution, except those stupid enough to believe anything Huston says about the Constitution and the rights of conscience. Furthermore, there ain't nobody stupid enough to believe the concept is not in the Constitution, except those stupid enough to believe anything Huston writes.

38 posted on 09/10/2006 5:05:47 PM PDT by Joseph Story 1833
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