Is It All Just Hot Air? (Global Warming)

Albuquerque Journal ^ | 7/23/06 | John Fleck

[JasonC]

Power is power, it is entirely fungible. Change the water vapor and you will change the temperature, if it is giving 80-90% of the power.

[ChessExpert]

Fire and Ice
Journalists have warned of climate change for 100 years, but can’t decide weather we face an ice age or warming

http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2006/fireandice/fireandice.asp

This is an outstanding study on the reporting on climate change. First it was Cooling (1920s), then Warming (1930s), then Cooling again (1970s), now we are back to Warming. The study claims the Government spends about $4B per year on climate change research. Anyone interested in feedback loops can contemplate the interaction between: A) News Industry, B) Readers/Voters, C) Government (1 Politicians, and 2 Bureaucracy), D) Researchers (1 Government agencies, 2 Universities, etc.). $4B/annum can buy a lot of action/interaction.

There is a two page Executive Summary, followed by the 16 page study. There is duplication between the two. For me, it’s easier to ignore the executive summary and simply read the article.

It was previously posted on FreeRepublic by freemarket_kenshepherd

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1634298/posts

[Steve Van Doorn]

"The current "math" for the 21st century, if CO2 doubles, is then (approximating) 1.0 C for CO2 + 1.0 C for water vapor"

that is yet to be proven. From what I am reading even from your sites it is so far off from reality it reminds me of a typical comic book.

[Steve Van Doorn]

I see you must be friends with Hans? Just wondering why his site and all his links was changed TODAY.

[ChessExpert]

Nice models!

You can see how small the Earth is compared to the Sun. I think the Earth is the most attractive planet, in addition to being extremely well suited for life and discovery. (The last two characteristics are examined in the book Privileged Planet.)

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

And I love it how the media screams that we're having the hottest temperatures in the last 125 years right now. They know that a large percentage of the under-30 crowd is too poorly educated to know about the Dust Bowl of the 1930s, where temperatures in Michigan and Wisconsin were hitting above 110F.

[Steve Van Doorn]

"I think the Earth is the most attractive planet"

I wouldn't know that. i haven't been to the others. :)

[ChessExpert]

Nor I.

I was referring to the models in post 166.

[cogitator]

that is yet to be proven. From what I am reading even from your sites it is so far off from reality it reminds me of a typical comic book.

Proving it would mean waiting until 2100 to see if it happens. I won't make it. All that can be done currently is to keep modeling, tweaking the models, getting the best observational data, let the data inform the models, etc.

[cogitator]

I see you must be friends with Hans? Just wondering why his site and all his links was changed TODAY.

Since I've followed the global warming issue on various forums for several years, I've heard of him. I might even have exchanged posts somewhere, but I don't recall doing so. I've never corresponded with him directly. Based on where I've seen him posting, I think he's reacting to ongoing discussions on ClimateAudit.

[CedarDave]

John Fleck of the ABQ Journal noticed our comments on his story:

Whose Tool Am I?

[woofie]

Thanks for posting that link