Posted on 07/21/2006 10:55:13 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback
Heck, maybe the president should be on the hook for paying for my gas when I drive to church, or be on the hook for drinks and panty money whenever some guy wants to go to the strip club...wouldn't want to violate the separation of church and state, dontchaknow?
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It is too bad his veto power never found its way into matters of state, as well as matters of ideology.
What a brave President we have! He gets attacked on all sides for doing the right thing...in the defense of life and liberty.
Amazing times we live in...
Aren’t Christians allowed to have a voice in politics like everybody else, or has the First Amendment been repealed?
Indeed~!
Bing and go.
Embryonic stem cell research isn't about curing disease, it's about devaluing human life.
Shalom.
Only liberal,gay,pro-abortion "Christians" are supposed to be politically active</s>
Stem cell research isn't illegal. Bush isn't trying to make it illegal. The feds as far as I know are continuing to fund research on lines already begun. Yet to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the left you'd think Bush was putting arsenic in Grandma's meds. He's simply saying the Feds don't want to fund research using new stem cell lines. That seems like an extremely moderate reasonable position to take. If the potential for this research is so great that Bush is accused of horrible things for failing to fund it, why aren't pharmaceutical companies stampeding to do it themselves? That would be a more appropriate avenue for funding anyway. This is all a tempest in a teapot, IMHO.
Oh, what, them again?!
Yep-you never hear anyone screeching about "separation of church and state" when Hildebeast or algore and their cohorts speak to black congregations in their churches and encourage them to be politically active.
It's weird. I come from a long line of Dems, but the parties have changed places since the 50's. I still hold that McCarthy was on to something and that's when everything started turning the wrong way...
Oh good grief it is not. People doing this research aren't sitting around in little rooms ringing their hands like Snidely Whiplash and revelling in devaluing human life.
Not consciously. People often don't really know their motivations. There are also those who aren't really thinking about it and are just going along. But it is still true that the push for embryonic stem cell research is the push to devalue human life. If it were truly a desire to cure disease then these people whould be focusing their attention on the therapies and methodologies that have actually shown some promise.
Shalom.
The question of whether to pay taxpayers' money out by the millions is certainly a matter of "state" (as contrasted with "church.")
As for "ideology": can you define that for us all in a way that distinguishes it from "political philosophy" or "principle"? BTW, I would have liked a few more vetoes over the past 5 years, but as for the particular matter at hand, this one's a good one.
That should tell you something.
One wonders why some lobbyists are so frantic about pushing public funding for something so dubious, unless they also want to underline their belief that the early stages of a particular human being's life have zero moral significance.
I for one have always resisted the idea that children constitute some kind of "resource" for "progress" or "the nation" or "the good of the human race," and I will never accept that any of us--- at any age --- are just raw material for somebody else's project.
The question of whether to pay taxpayers' money out by the millions is certainly a matter of "state"...
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Yes it is, but that is not the stated reason (by Bush himself) that he vetoed this legislation. Even the worst newspapers carried his explanation --- read it!!!
The "can" questions concern science. The "ought" questions, are, precisely, the realm of government.
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