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Thomas Sowell: Pacifists versus peace
Townhall.com ^ | July 21, 2006 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 07/21/2006 3:50:40 AM PDT by Puzzleman

One of the many failings of our educational system is that it sends out into the world people who cannot tell rhetoric from reality. They have learned no systematic way to analyze ideas, derive their implications and test those implications against hard facts.

"Peace" movements are among those who take advantage of this widespread inability to see beyond rhetoric to realities. Few people even seem interested in the actual track record of so-called "peace" movements -- that is, whether such movements actually produce peace or war.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: ceasefire; peace; war
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As always, a well-thought article by Thomas Sowell.
1 posted on 07/21/2006 3:50:42 AM PDT by Puzzleman
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To: Puzzleman

He is a role model, and not just for black people, but for all Americans.


2 posted on 07/21/2006 3:54:46 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Puzzleman

A good article, but I'm afraid many even good-intentioned Christians (not the John Spong phonies, but bona fide well meaning ones, the ones who read Christianity Today and so) will turn a blind eye to what Sowell said.


3 posted on 07/21/2006 3:55:04 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (Western MSMs are becoming Chinese media, nothing is true apart from the paper's name and date.)
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To: NZerFromHK

I'm puzzled as to why you'd bring in Christianity; Dr. Sowell certainly didn't mention that as an issue.

As a Christian myself, I see no conflict between praying diligently for peace (in the Middle East and elsewhere), while supporting the right of nations to defend themselves forcefully against agression.


4 posted on 07/21/2006 4:02:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Whiskey for my men, hyperbolic rodomontade for my horses.)
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To: Puzzleman

ping


5 posted on 07/21/2006 4:06:53 AM PDT by Toadman
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To: Puzzleman

As always TS hits the nail on the head.

After the front page news article about the "Peace House" here in town and the "protests" they are planning I wonder if the Fayetteville Obscurer will print that issue of TS.

They do print some of his.


6 posted on 07/21/2006 4:08:51 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Weapons are not toys to play with, they are tools to be used.)
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To: coconutt2000
He's by far one of the very smartest men alive.

(I'm just re-reading "conflict of visions".... the guy is off the chart.)
7 posted on 07/21/2006 4:12:48 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Puzzleman
Some people do understand that "peace" is not necessarily the "absence of war"
8 posted on 07/21/2006 4:12:57 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: clyde asbury

Sowell, brother.


9 posted on 07/21/2006 4:13:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Whiskey for my men, hyperbolic rodomontade for my horses.)
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To: NZerFromHK

I have heard people say the US Constitution is not a suicide pact. As a Christian, I do not believe God intends for the Bible to be a suicide pact either. Turning the other cheek has nothing at all to do with self defense. I am pretty much against these so called peace mongers. It does not work.


10 posted on 07/21/2006 4:15:13 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: NZerFromHK
I'm afraid many even good-intentioned Christians
Please give me an example of a "bad-intentioned" Christian.
11 posted on 07/21/2006 4:15:34 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Puzzleman

Peace doesn't come about from do-nothings.


12 posted on 07/21/2006 4:15:59 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: Tax-chick

Unfortunately, many think that unilateral peace leads to universal peace - reality is too often contrary.


13 posted on 07/21/2006 4:17:05 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: ctdonath2

No argument there!

Dr. Sowell points out that people just don't think these things through, and I believe he's right. I don't know whether, somewhere in his writing, he addresses the question of how people can function when they're mentally on Planet Zongo ... but I often wonder ...


14 posted on 07/21/2006 4:20:19 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Whiskey for my men, hyperbolic rodomontade for my horses.)
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To: Puzzleman

I haven't even read the article yet, but I am sure it will be good.

The man is brilliant. I just finished reading "Black Liberals and White Liberals", and his book "Basic Economics: A Citizens Guide to the Economy" is hard to beat for anyone who is a non-economist.


15 posted on 07/21/2006 4:41:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: xcamel

Exactly!!!! THAT is the essence of the anti-war crowd (not the anti-Bush crowd)

That viewpoint just drives me crazy. Those people are used to looking at things with a viewpoint that is 10 miles wide but a nanometer deep. They have never even analyzed it to that level.


16 posted on 07/21/2006 4:43:22 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Puzzleman

Sowell is correct. The Kellogg-Briand pact was seen as the greatest advancement ever towards peace. It was, however, largely responsible for the carnage of WWII.


17 posted on 07/21/2006 4:48:46 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: Puzzleman

Peace activist = war enabler


18 posted on 07/21/2006 4:51:41 AM PDT by olderwiser
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To: Mark17
As a Christian, I do not believe God intends for the Bible to be a suicide pact either. Turning the other cheek has nothing at all to do with self defense.

Absolutely!

55. This should not cause surprise: to kill a human being, in whom the image of God is present, is a particularly serious sin. Only God is the master of life! Yet from the beginning, faced with the many and often tragic cases which occur in the life of individuals and society, Christian reflection has sought a fuller and deeper understanding of what God's commandment prohibits and prescribes. 43 There are in fact situations in which values proposed by God's Law seem to involve a genuine paradox. This happens for example in the case of legitimate defence, in which the right to protect one's own life and the duty not to harm someone else's life are difficult to reconcile in practice. Certainly, the intrinsic value of life and the duty to love oneself no less than others are the basis of a true right to self-defence. The demanding commandment of love of neighbour, set forth in the Old Testament and confirmed by Jesus, itself presupposes love of oneself as the basis of comparison: "You shall love your neighbour as yourself " (Mk 12:31). Consequently, no one can renounce the right to self-defence out of lack of love for life or for self. This can only be done in virtue of a heroic love which deepens and transfigures the love of self into a radical self-offering, according to the spirit of the Gospel Beatitudes (cf. Mt 5:38-40). The sublime example of this self-offering is the Lord Jesus himself.

Moreover, "legitimate defence can be not only a right but a grave duty for someone responsible for another's life, the common good of the family or of the State".44 Unfortunately it happens that the need to render the aggressor incapable of causing harm sometimes involves taking his life. In this case, the fatal outcome is attributable to the aggressor whose action brought it about, even though he may not be morally responsible because of a lack of the use of reason. 45

43 Cf. Catechism of the Catholic Church, Nos. 2263-2269; cf. also Catechism of the Council of Trent III, §§ 327-332.

44 Catechism of the Catholic Church, No. 2265.

45 Cf. Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologiae, II-II, q. 64, a. 7; Saint Alphonsus De' Liguori, Theologia Moralis, l. III, tr. 4, c. 1, dub.3.

Evangelium vitae
19 posted on 07/21/2006 4:59:47 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: Puzzleman
Well, peace movements don't actually bring war. War comes of its own accord, and avoiding it is neither feasible nor desirable. What peace movements bring is defeat. Which is the actual problem to be avoided.
20 posted on 07/21/2006 5:04:33 AM PDT by JasonC
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