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Veto rattles stem-cell efforts - Researchers say Bush's actions hamper work in California
Mercury News ^ | 7/20/06 | Paul Jacobs

Posted on 07/20/2006 1:15:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

President Bush's veto of a bill to ease restrictions on federally funded embryonic stem-cell research will hinder California's $3 billion voter-approved effort to turn stem cells into cures, backers of the state-funded research effort said Wednesday.

Bush's rejection of the legislation -- his first-ever veto in his 5 1/2 years in office -- shows his continued support for those who oppose, on moral grounds, destroying human embryos to create stem cells in research intended to develop new treatments for grave conditions such as Parkinson's, diabetes and spinal cord injuries.

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The veto was a crushing blow for advocates who hoped for a national effort to find treatments for some of medicine's most stubborn and deadly maladies -- efforts that polls say are supported by a majority of Americans. It also presents another morally charged wedge issue that will be exploited by both sides in what are expected to be bruising elections for Congress this fall.

And there are ramifications for state-funded research in California -- both direct and indirect.

The state will still be able to go ahead with plans to spend funds from a state bond measure authorized by Proposition 71 two years ago, but researchers worry that they will continue to waste valuable resources because funding restrictions will force them to create facilities to do work that might have been shared by existing labs.

Robert Klein, chairman of the committee that is overseeing spending of the state funding, describes Bush's decision as ``tragic.''

``We could get greater leverage out of our $3 billion if we were able to use federally funded facilities currently in place,'' said Klein, who led the effort to pass a stem-cell funding initiative in 2004.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: actions; bush; california; cirm; efforts; embryonic; hamper; junkscience; prop71; rattles; researchers; ripofftaxpayers; stemcell; veto
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1 posted on 07/20/2006 1:15:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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The government should not be subsidizing this research. It's corporate welfare, not to mention immoral.


2 posted on 07/20/2006 1:16:36 PM PDT by Brilliant
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No, it only hampers efforts by Junk Scientists to get their hands on billion of dollars of US Taxpayer dollars. They can do all the research they want
3 posted on 07/20/2006 1:16:43 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Democrats, TAX,SPEND,APPEASEMENT and TREASON..is not a winning platform.)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is all about $$$$$.

...crushing blow for advocates...

Indeed.

4 posted on 07/20/2006 1:17:07 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: NormsRevenge

If there really is huge promise in this technology, these researchers should have no trouble finding private investors.


5 posted on 07/20/2006 1:17:34 PM PDT by Pete
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....these researchers should have no trouble finding private investors.

How many Billion$ of dollars between the Gates' foundation and Buffet's money is there for this?
6 posted on 07/20/2006 1:23:02 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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To: NormsRevenge

President Bush was always crystal clear about his position on this and now the idiots in California want to act surprised?

Boo-Freakin-Hoo! Cry me a river.


7 posted on 07/20/2006 1:25:25 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: NormsRevenge

CA: Schwarzenegger gives $150 million loan to stem cell agency (after Presidential veto)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1669333/posts


8 posted on 07/20/2006 1:26:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......The Ca GOP: Where conservatives votes count but their opinions don't.)
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``We could get greater leverage out of our $3 billion if we were able to use federally funded facilities currently in place,'' said Klein, who led the effort to pass a stem-cell funding initiative in 2004.


Either the Feds have funded more facilities than are currently in use or Klein wants to take over space that is being used for things that actually show promise.


9 posted on 07/20/2006 1:27:08 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: NormsRevenge
Adult stem cell treatments/cures already approved = 70+
Adult stem cell treatments approved for human trials = 1,000 plus

Embryonic stem cell treatments/cures already approved = 0
Embryonic stem cell treatments approved for human trials = 0

Embryonic stem cell research is Scientific welfare.
10 posted on 07/20/2006 1:51:33 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: NormsRevenge

Gee. Too bad.


11 posted on 07/20/2006 1:52:55 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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Exactly. There is a greater problem if this had been approved. Embryonic stem cell research would become "political medicine" at the expense of more promising adult stem cell work. Just look at what aids research money has done to the NIH.


12 posted on 07/20/2006 1:56:27 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Researchers say Bush's actions hamper work in California

Well, not having the feds pay my mortgage hampers me--I have to hold a job. And, they don't finance my research projects either--I have to sell product to finance them. That should all change. I'm should get federal subsidies for everything I do.

13 posted on 07/20/2006 1:56:32 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: NormsRevenge

Look at me! I'm playing the world's smallest violin! ;-)


14 posted on 07/20/2006 2:15:32 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: taxcontrol

Don't forget to add that Embryonic Stem Cells cause malignant carcinomas in 80% of test animals.


15 posted on 07/20/2006 2:28:55 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: taxcontrol

bears repeating over and over and over.


16 posted on 07/20/2006 2:31:22 PM PDT by thinkthenpost
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To: NormsRevenge

Some real facts about stem cell research:

http://healthbolt.net/2006/07/20/with-truth-and-stem-cell-research-for-all

To summarize: (1) Embryonic stem cell treatments don't work (cause/are cancer), while adult stem cell (i.e., taken from the patient's own body) treatments exist, are in human trials, and show real hope. (2) The politicians are intentionally ignoring the difference between the two for political reasons.

PS I got this from a poster over on DU! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2732471#2732968 See comment #6. One of the rare cases I've seen of a poster on DU trying to interject rationality into a thread. If course, the DUmmies ignored it...


17 posted on 07/20/2006 2:35:10 PM PDT by piytar
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To: NormsRevenge
He vetoed federally funded research and the nimrods are having a cow. Hey nimrods, put up your own damned money and STFU.
18 posted on 07/20/2006 2:36:56 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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"Adult stem cell treatments/cures already approved = 70+
Adult stem cell treatments approved for human trials = 1,000 plus

Embryonic stem cell treatments/cures already approved = 0
Embryonic stem cell treatments approved for human trials = 0

Embryonic stem cell research is Scientific welfare."

BEARS REPEATING. Lots and lots of repeating. Get the word out. This isn't too complex for the average American to understand. The politicos, though, esp. on the left, don't want people to know this because it defuses the "Get Bush" aspect of the debate. And their allies in the MSM have the same view (shock -- NOT).


19 posted on 07/20/2006 2:38:14 PM PDT by piytar
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"Stinkin' FREEPER TROLL"


20 posted on 07/20/2006 2:47:52 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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