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To: ZULU
The fact that this law was on the books for 200 years AS WELL AS SIMILAR laws all over the nation, indicates that the Founding Fathers who WROTE our Constitution had no problem with them.

Theres also a law on the books that makes it illegal to beat your wife with any object wider that you thumb. And you cannot beat your wife on the courthouse steps on Sunday.

But our radical liberal courts, with some help from the anti-western ACLU, suddenly "discvovered" a new right - the right to live like swine.

Where you see swine, I see a very expensive (I won't say how much) brand new house in a gated community with marble accents, all the tech playthings inside, a two car garage and a well manicured lawn.

Idiotic decisions by Federal Courts like this one are indeed contributing to the collapse of western civilization.

This decision was made because the judges ruled that whatever my living arrangements may be is nobody's business. They made these decisions so that they wouldn't have to round up hundreds of thousands of couples who are hard working, taxpaying, law abiding Americans and throw them in jail. If what i am doing is morally wrong, (Morals that have obviously been established by the almighty doer-of-no-wrong, you.) then it is between me and me God. Not me and my government or my neighbor or you.
47 posted on 07/20/2006 12:11:41 PM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

"Theres also a law on the books that makes it illegal to beat your wife with any object wider that you thumb. And you cannot beat your wife on the courthouse steps on Sunday."

That analogy is absurd.

"Where you see swine, I see a very expensive (I won't say how much) brand new house in a gated community with marble accents, all the tech playthings inside, a two car garage and a well manicured lawn."

If you mean you are shacking up with somebody and not married to them, I hope I don't have to pay the costs of feeding, medicating, and caring for your kids when you ultimately split and they are left without support. And I hope I don't have to pay the costs of apprehending, trying and incarcerating them becasue they haven't learned to live like responsible people because they were raised in an environment without appropriate role models. And I hope I don;t have to worry about your offspring generating violent crimes in my neighborhood and threatening my right to keep and bear arms because they are in the business of stealing them or abusing them.

And I'm not impressed by a gated community with marble fixtures, "playthings" and a well-manicured lawn. Children need loving devoted parents of both sexes who are good moral role models, not successful entrepeneurs, in order to grow up straight. God doesn't judge things by superficialities and I try not to either.


"This decision was made because the judges ruled that whatever my living arrangements may be is nobody's business."

When the consequences of your "living arrangements" impact me or my family or nation adversely, it IS my business.



They made these decisions so that they wouldn't have to round up hundreds of thousands of couples who are hard working, taxpaying, law abiding Americans and throw them in jail. If what i am doing is morally wrong, (Morals that have obviously been established by the almighty doer-of-no-wrong, you.) then it is between me and me God. Not me and my government or my neighbor or you.

"They made these decisions so that they wouldn't have to round up hundreds of thousands of couples who are hard working, taxpaying, law abiding Americans and throw them in jail."

You aren't law-abiding if you are breaking a law and I'm not aware of any organized pogroms to round up fornicators or adulterers in America.

"(Morals that have obviously been established by the almighty doer-of-no-wrong,you.)"

Wrong. GENERATIONS of other people going back very many years established these moral codes and they have worked fairly well. Your free and easy lifestyle doesn't have such a successful track record.

"then it is between me and me God. Not me and my government or my neighbor or you."

If what you are doing doesn't impact me or my community or country, you are correct. When it does, it no longer is between you and God alone.


56 posted on 07/20/2006 1:49:08 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
Theres also a law on the books that makes it illegal to beat your wife with any object wider that you thumb. And you cannot beat your wife on the courthouse steps on Sunday.

Really?? Do tell us where.

104 posted on 07/20/2006 7:09:03 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Question Diversity)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
Theres also a law on the books that makes it illegal to beat your wife with any object wider that you thumb. And you cannot beat your wife on the courthouse steps on Sunday.

I am starting to believe that libertarians are mentally retarded. I really am.

They drag out leftist lie after lie, in a pathetic attempt to prop up Judicial Activism, provided that judicial activism helps their cause.

Guess what, just like the 50% divorce LIE, the "Rule of Thumb" is ALSO a lie:

http://www.canlaw.com/rights/thumbrul.htm

http://www.debunker.com/texts/ruleofthumb.html

The "rule of thumb" lie is one that was invented by a femi-nazi liar. Yet, libertarians latch on to these leftist lies like they are gospel?

The "Courthouse step" myth/hoax/urban legend is another one, this one seems to have been invented by the idiots on various "Dumb Law" sites, usually run by libertine high school drop outs, who make stuff up and say it exists. I challenged one of these "Dumb Law Sites" to cite me the Statute that permitted wife beating on the Courthouse steps. Guess what, they couldn't do it. You know why? Because the law doesn't exist.

Wife beating, contrary to femi-nazi myth, was prohibited in early America.

This decision was made because the judges ruled that whatever my living arrangements may be is nobody's business. They made these decisions so that they wouldn't have to round up hundreds of thousands of couples who are hard working, taxpaying, law abiding Americans and throw them in jail. If what i am doing is morally wrong, (Morals that have obviously been established by the almighty doer-of-no-wrong, you.) then it is between me and me God. Not me and my government or my neighbor or you.

Again, freedom is no license. Liberty is not the unbridled will, it's not the freedom to do as you like. When you actions degrade the morality of society, society has a right to self defense.

117 posted on 07/20/2006 8:46:40 PM PDT by ghostmonkey
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To: HOTTIEBOY
This decision was made because the judges ruled that whatever my living arrangements may be is nobody's business. They made these decisions so that they wouldn't have to round up hundreds of thousands of couples who are hard working, taxpaying, law abiding Americans and throw them in jail. If what i am doing is morally wrong, (Morals that have obviously been established by the almighty doer-of-no-wrong, you.)

Nice post.

220 posted on 07/21/2006 7:56:55 PM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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