[Valin]

I know just what you mean.
Remember the object is not to go to war with as many countries as we can, but to change for the better a very backward part of the world. And this is going to take a long time. This is what the President means when he says this is going to be a long war. Will it work? I don't know as I've misplaced my crystal ball, but the alternative is not something that is in our history. 300 years from now I don't want some historian writing 'and then America went mad and killed millions of Muslims'.

[Tax-chick]

Remember the object is not to go to war with as many countries as we can, but to change for the better a very backward part of the world.

I agree with that objective, too. I just think that lying to ourselves, about who our enemies are and what they want to do to us, doesn't help.

Could be I'm just getting old! 40 in two days :-).