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Bill Clinton, a Rifle, and an Israeli Foxhole
ChronWatch ^ | 20 July 2006 | Doc Farmer

Posted on 07/19/2006 7:30:52 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

Well, it looks like World War IV is in full swing now. I say World War IV, because World War III already happened--the common name is the “Cold” War--and Reagan won that war. So, somebody please send a note to Newt Gingrich. Also, remind him that World War IV started “officially” for the United States on September 11, 2001, despite the fact that Islamofascists have been attacking America since 1968 (when Bobby Kennedy was assassinated).

Be that as it may, the current trigger to this war seems to have been pulled by Hezbollah and Hamas. They’ve kidnapped Israeli soldiers, and Israel is not all that happy with this state of affairs. Furthermore, they’ve moved rockets and missiles into Gaza and southern Lebanon--areas Israel agreed to move out of, so long as the other side promised not to use them for military purposes--and proceeded to lob ordinance indiscriminately into Israel.

Our ally, Israel, has responded with what some have called “disproportionate” force. Well, how would you make it proportionate? If you point a gun at a cop, must s/he only point one back at you without firing? If you shoot the cop, can s/he only shoot back the same number of times, and hit the same parts of your body? There’s proportionate response (which brings stalemate) and there’s appropriate response (which brings victory).

I think you can guess which type of response I prefer.

This latest conflict, however, brought to mind a story I read several years ago. America’s first Black President (and second Impeached President) was at a Hadassah fundraiser back in 2002. I recall this because I thought it was funny, totally bogus, and everything we’ve come to expect from Slick Willie, viz:

“The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and die.”

Now, putting aside the fact that his provisos are pretty much impossible (the Jordan River is nowhere near any invasion front, no invasion is taking place, and the attackers are being orchestrated by Iran instead of using their own army), I have to wonder if our former Fornicator-in-Chief has the intestinal fortitude to make good on his statement. Israel, one of our closest allies, is under attack. Where’s Bill Clinton? Where’s his rifle? Where’s that foxhole?

At this point, I’d like to thank whoever in the upper military echelons taught him the difference between a rifle and a gun. Considering Clinton, this is an important lesson.

Israelis are doing what America SHOULD be doing. When they are attacked, they fight back--HARD. When their soldiers are kidnapped, they use all necessary force to get them back. When two of our troops were kidnapped, tortured, gutted, beheaded, and booby-trapped, our lib/dem/soc/commie media paid attention to it for only one day. Apparently, since they weren’t killed as a round number of some kind (1000, 2000, 2500, etc.) they didn’t merit their concern. Except, of course, to blame Bush.

And if the rest of the world doesn’t like it, TOUGH! They’re not the ones getting murdered by terrorists. Well, not yet, anyway. They’re not the ones being hit by state-sponsored Islamofascists. For the moment. However, many other countries (America, Bali, Germany, Saudi Arabia, England, India, Spain, etc.) have. Of those, only America and England have had the guts to engage in self-defense. It must really honk the lib/dem/soc/commies off big-time.

Nevertheless, what of Slick Willie and his “promise”? Sure, he was talking to a bunch of Jews at a fundraiser. Sure, he wanted cash. Sure, he wanted to look good. I’m certain he even bit his lower lip and forced an on-command tear every once in a while during that event. But he’s also a former president. A man whose word should mean something. Yes, yes, I know I’m talking about a Clinton here, but in the ABSTRACT, his word should mean something more than “give me your cash” or “let me cop a feel” or “you should probably put some ice on that.”

Ditzy Dean, the former governor and current DNC chairman, actually had the audacity to say that we wouldn’t be in this current situation in the Middle East if we had followed the “moral authority” of Bill Clinton. Two words which should never be uttered in the same sentence with any amount of seriousness. Moral Authority is the LAST thing that can be expected of Bill Clinton. Or, for that matter, Ditzy Dean, Teddy the Hutt, the Hildebeast, Jean François Kerrée, Nancy bin Pelosi, or most any other lib/dem/soc/commie. Okay, I’ll give Moral Authority props to Joe Lieberman, but he’s one of the very very few.

If Israel is truly an ally of America, why hasn’t Clinton gotten on to the next flight to Tel Aviv (sans Secret Service--they didn’t promise to defend Israel, Slick Willie did), put on some camo, pick up an Uzi, and start defending her? I’m sure his wife wouldn’t mind--after all, if he saves lives over there, she’s a hero in her presidential bid. If he is killed, even better for her--not only is she a hero, but also a widow, and therefore a victim who cannot be questioned by anybody. Further, she’d shed all of that political baggage he provides without recourse to a messy divorce. Frankly, I’m surprised she hasn’t darted him with chlorpromazine and FedEx’d his sorry butt to a defensive position on the Israel/Lebanon border by now.

Of course, this is all a moot point. Bill Clinton was, and ever shall be, a liar of the first degree. He said what he said back then for money. This makes Bill Clinton a whore of the worst kind--one that takes the cash and doesn’t deliver the goodies. Nothing new there, I suppose, but it’s kind of nice to see it illustrated so graphically.

Yet you’ll only see it illustrated here. As far as I know, not one MSM outlet has brought up Clinton’s statement from four years ago. That’s not surprising--since they didn’t really cover it when he MADE the statement. Nevertheless, it would be nice to see Bill Clinton actually keep his promises and stick to his word. For the novelty factor, if nothing else. It would also be nice to see the MSM try to hold a politician to account that isn’t a rep/con/tair, while allowing all manner of lies, obfuscations, flip-flops, and other crapola from the lib/dem/soc/commies.

So, Mr. Clinton, send us a post card from an Israeli ditch. Defend our ally with more than just words. Keep your promise (well, except maybe for the dying part--you should do your best to stay alive, just to honk off your wife!). Pick up a rifle, kill a few terrorists, and make the world a safer, better place.

And then, we’ll remind you of the irony that you couldn’t be bothered to do the same thing for OUR country, you draft-dodging bastard.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bj; disgrace; israel; rifle; slickwilly
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BJ is just sooooo full of shiite!!!
1 posted on 07/19/2006 7:30:54 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

So have they replaced the board that just quit due to corruption for the Katrina fund?


2 posted on 07/19/2006 7:32:14 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Aussie Dasher
“The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and die.”
It looses something in the translation, I think it actually should read something like:
"The Jews know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab some reefer, get me a *itch, and get some booty and get high."
I hope this helps...
3 posted on 07/19/2006 7:37:52 PM PDT by FlashBack (W)
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To: FlashBack

Far more plausible!


4 posted on 07/19/2006 7:41:06 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

> ... despite the fact that Islamofascists have been
> attacking America since 1968 ...

Since the 1790s.
"shores of Tripoli"

They've never been able to come to terms with the fact
that their Big Book of Mediterranean Mythology has
nothing to say about the entire Western Hemisphere.


5 posted on 07/19/2006 7:44:05 PM PDT by Boundless (Imagine if Fox had a news channel)
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To: FlashBack
“The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and die.”

To truly understand what it means, you have to read the fine print on the back side. viz.

Offer valid only in the event of a Nobel Peace Prize award. Redeemable within thirty days in case of compliance. No warranty is expressed or implied. Offer not valid is some parts of the Middle East. Cash value: Zip

6 posted on 07/19/2006 7:45:00 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Aussie Dasher

He is, in fact, shi'ite..


7 posted on 07/19/2006 7:48:10 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: okie01

And the Dims keep asking why "WE" keep bringing him up!


8 posted on 07/19/2006 7:49:28 PM PDT by FlashBack (W)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Teddy the Hutt

I was with the writer completely, up until the point that he started making fun of Ted. Ted is a U.S. Senator, and should be referred to by his earned title, viz. "Senator Kennedy (Drunken Murderer, MA). Alternatively, another title which displays the honor that has earned could be used, that of "Captain Oldsmobile."

Sheesh, people have no respect these days. (/sarc)

9 posted on 07/19/2006 7:53:10 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Our ally, Israel, has responded with what some have called “disproportionate” force."

It was dispropotionate. I think Israel should have retaliated with one bomb each bomb from from Lebanon, and Gaza Strip....using neutron bombs.

10 posted on 07/19/2006 7:54:41 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Aussie Dasher

I don't know if you've ever served in the military, but I don't think most commanders would consider Bill Clinton to be an asset to their units. Better he should stay home and shoot his mouth off, already, and let the boys who know how do the fighting.


12 posted on 07/19/2006 8:03:12 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: FlashBack
""The Jews know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the Jordan River, I would personally grab some reefer, get me a *itch, and get some booty and get high." "

Google - Clinton;Hassadah;fundraiser

Mideast Dispatch Archive, August 04, 2002

BILL CLINTON WOULD TAKE UP ARMS AND “FIGHT AND DIE” FOR ISRAEL

Bill Clinton has said that he would take up arms and "fight and die" for Israel if Iraq attacks the Jewish state. The remarks, made last week at a Jewish children's fund-raiser in Canada, were first reported in the Toronto Star, and then given prominence on Friday as the cover story in the New York Post.

I attach the New York Post article below, followed by a story from the Washington Times which notes that many U.S. veterans are "outraged" and "mystified" by Clinton's new "gung-ho attitude," especially considering the lengths to which he went to avoid serving in Vietnam.

While some commentators in the U.S. media have welcomed Clinton's apparent show of support for Israel, others have accused him of "a shameless bid to be invited to address other Jewish fund-raisers" for which he is paid $100,000 a pop, and said "he should sign up today – to fight for the U.S. in Afghanistan."

Clinton also confirmed that contrary to what continues to be reported by anti-Israel elements in the western media, Yasser Arafat was offered control of 97 percent of the West Bank while he was president.

-- Tom Gross

“I WOULD GRAB A RIFLE AND GET IN THE TRENCH…”

Bubba: I'd fight and die for Israel
By Andy Geller and Richard Johnson
New York Post
August 2, 2002

Bill Clinton – who avoided serving in Vietnam – says he would take up arms and "fight and die" for Israel if Iraq attacks the Jewish state.

"If Iraq came across the Jordan River, I would grab a rifle and get in the trench and fight and die," the ex-president said to wild applause at a Jewish fund-raiser in Toronto.

Clinton made his bombshell remarks to 350 people who paid $1,000 to break bread with him on Monday night at a dinner for the Toronto Hadassah-WIZO children's charity.

Clinton, who tried but failed to make peace in the Middle East the legacy of his presidency, decried the current cycle of violence in Israel.

"I don't think there is a military solution to this," he said. "But I know there's not a terrorist solution to it."

Clinton also said he disagreed with President Bush that peace can be achieved only when Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat is gone from power.

Nevertheless, he said it is important for the United States to remain involved because "Israelis believe that America is the only big country that cares if they live or die."

The ex-president said the best solution to the Middle East conflict is an interim settlement that would "establish a Palestinian state now."

But he stressed that the creation of such a state must be preceded by security assurances for Israel and a timetable to resolve other issues.

Clinton said Arafat made a "disastrous mistake" by turning down past peace proposals that would have given the Palestinian leader control of 97 percent of the West Bank.

Yet, Clinton said, "There is reason for hope.

"I think this will be resolved on the terms the Palestinians walked away from."

Clinton couldn't be reached for comment yesterday because he was on a plane to Aspen, Colo., his spokeswoman said.

Clinton, who opposed the Vietnam War, signed up for the ROTC to avoid immediate induction when he received a draft call in 1969.

He later changed his mind about the ROTC and decided to take his chances with the new draft lottery.
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yitbos

13 posted on 07/19/2006 8:08:41 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

14 posted on 07/19/2006 8:11:10 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ( have long feared that my sins would return to visit me and the cost would be more than I could bear)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Not unexpected. Billy wants to jump any hole he sees.


15 posted on 07/19/2006 8:19:18 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Excellent article!


16 posted on 07/19/2006 8:22:06 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I've not been in the military but it seems fairly obvious BJ is not an asset to any worthwhile purpose...


17 posted on 07/19/2006 8:22:12 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
So he lied, Dasher. You never saw that coming, did you?

:-D )))

18 posted on 07/19/2006 8:33:41 PM PDT by RichInOC ("...Bravest of the brave, Sir William...")
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Blind Freddy and his dog could see that coming!


19 posted on 07/19/2006 8:36:01 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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Clinton to be an asset to their units

Sure he would. Mother F#$% can walk point until he gets his useless butt killed. Better him then somebody who is actually useful.

20 posted on 07/19/2006 8:36:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Democrats, TAX,SPEND,APPEASEMENT and TREASON..is not a winning platform.)
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