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To: ChessExpert
Under the new legislation, the vouchers would mainly go to students in poor schools that have failed to meet their progress goals for at least five straight years.

At first, I thought this was great - but not if it's only for the 'poor'. Once the definition of that gets established, it will benefit very few. And the reason many schools are failing is that the parents don't care. I'll bet most won't use the vouchers and/or still won't monitor their children's schoolwork.

Vouchers for everyone would be much better.
13 posted on 07/19/2006 7:29:43 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall
Vouchers for everyone would be much better.

Vouchers + tax dollars = Still Federal Control

Cut the taxes and spending, parents will have money to send their kids to any school they wish, competition among schools will drive down prices, and kids will get a better education without government and liberal meddling.

15 posted on 07/19/2006 7:32:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: CottonBall

The legislation would cover all students in *poor schools*, not just *poor people*. Although it is too often true that poor schools are in poor neighborhoods.

Getting kids out of poor schools, no matter what their economic class is, should be our first priority.


19 posted on 07/19/2006 8:08:05 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: CottonBall

At first, I thought this was great - but not if it's only for the 'poor'. ( Cotton Ball)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The best way to begin privatizing government education is to start handing tuition bills to the well off when they show up at the government school with their little darlings.

Government education is the biggest entitlement to the middle and upper classes after social security.


33 posted on 07/20/2006 5:06:20 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: CottonBall

CottonBall:

I live right in the heart of an inner city. The parents here do not have the slightest, teenyist, tinyest view of what it takes to succed. No (and I mean NO) grasp of the world beyond their own neighborhoods. I put on post on FR the other day because I went ballistic in a faculty meeting over affirmative action and actually carried the day. Affirmative action in this neighborhood would be a joke. No one here has the background or the skills learned in the family to reach the bottom of the affirmative action ladder.

No Freeper will be surprised to learn that government aid simply deepens the problems because it reinforces the dysfunctional behaviors.

The poor will be, as you indicate, shorted in this program. But we have to get the kids out of here. I know that while some will make, most will not--and some of our local leaders will paint the whole thing as a conservative conspiracy to break up the educational system and undermine the cultures that exist in this area.

Ok, end of rant.

McVey


54 posted on 07/20/2006 6:46:18 AM PDT by mcvey (Fight on. Do not give up. Ally with those you must. Defeat those you can. And fight on whatever.)
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To: CottonBall
>>>>Vouchers for everyone would be much better.

That has a nasty consequence too. That gets government (NEA) monies into private schools. THEN the strings come with those monies. Soon the private schools won't look any different than the public schools. The NEA is what needs to be killed off.
100 posted on 07/21/2006 5:22:23 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: CottonBall
And the reason many schools are failing is that the parents don't care. I'll bet most won't use the vouchers and/or still won't monitor their children's schoolwork.

Exactly. We need to track private school performance as well if they are going to receive even more public funding.
113 posted on 07/21/2006 2:03:40 PM PDT by eraser2005
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