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To: traditional1

I can't imagine crossing the street to be offended by someone's smoke.

What I do object to, however, is the way the smokers congregate JUST OUTSIDE the building door, so if you want in or out, you MUST go through that smoke. Why not move, say, 15 feet to the side? They'd still be under shade, and I wouldn't have to be smoked up to get to work or lunch.


45 posted on 07/19/2006 6:33:44 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Xenalyte

I hate smoke but if that is the worst thing that happens to me, I have it pretty good.


47 posted on 07/19/2006 6:36:56 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Xenalyte
"What I do object to, however, is the way the smokers congregate JUST OUTSIDE the building doorAgreed. Although some buildings designate "smoking areas" right outside the doors, most don't and the closest outdoor area to the smokers' work area is, unfortunately, the door.

My favorites are the "butt huts" that are constructed for smokers to congregate, where they can be out of the rain/sleet/snow/etc. I won't even go into these places, because you can't breathe in there!

You gotta improvise today to find a smoking location that's suitable.

48 posted on 07/19/2006 6:37:22 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Xenalyte
What I do object to, however, is the way the smokers congregate JUST OUTSIDE the building door, so if you want in or out, you MUST go through that smoke. Why not move, say, 15 feet to the side? They'd still be under shade, and I wouldn't have to be smoked up to get to work or lunch.

WEll, that's just too bad. How do you think it feels to be thrown out the door. I apologize for being so straight, but I must speak my mind.

Chances are, the air outside where you wish to banish these folk is polluted with diesel fumes, car gases, cow flatulence, and various toxins, and the tobcco smoke is your problem? Get serious.

You want to banish people because you don't like the smell. That is very petty, and vindictive, not to mention egotisitical to think that your life is any more important than theirs. It is not. You get one life. Period.

Get over yourself. The biggest problesms come in where a group of people, usually small in number (MADD, CSPI, etal), who actively bitch and moan until they motivate a larger group (legislatures, and varied beaurocrats) to make some rule, or law. All we actually do is provide fodder for lawyers and "special interests" to rape and pillage our wallets.

I chose to quit smoking cigarettes in 1974, I had smoked them for 14 of my then-27 years. I got up one morning, lit one, coughed, and said the hell with them. I literally threw the carton in the trash, and never looked back.

A few years ago, I began smoking cigars. They really stink good. Our main house is a 100 yr old farmhouse. It has an enclosed front porch, with casement windows across. I have it climate controlled, and I can watch the big screen through a glass window in the living room. I have speakers set out here, and my computer is right in front of the window (I'm watching Michael Palin: Sahara, that I recorded on DVR.). I can smoke out here, and my air cleaner cleanses most of the smoke. I also love to burn incense, Nag Champa from my earlier days. The aromas mingle and merge, and I enjoy an occasional glass of brandy or B&B (or Glenmorangie, or 1800 anejo, etc) to pair with the smoke. It's a marvelous enjoyment, in my ripe old 58 years.

Screw you and all the rest of the authoritarian types... You only get one life. Try living your own, and let us live ours the way we wish! Any suggestion that second hand smoke is dangerous, is just plain bravo sierra, and you know it!

58 posted on 07/19/2006 6:59:11 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Xenalyte; Raycpa

Meant post to ray, in response to your statements...ping


63 posted on 07/19/2006 7:12:21 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Xenalyte
Why not move, say, 15 feet to the side? They'd still be under shade, and I wouldn't have to be smoked up to get to work or lunch.

Building management/maintenance could solve that by moving the big ashtray a few feet further from the door - but they generally have 'em right at the entrances.

83 posted on 07/19/2006 7:28:10 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: Xenalyte; traditional1
What I do object to, however, is the way the smokers congregate JUST OUTSIDE the building door, so if you want in or out, you MUST go through that smoke. Why not move, say, 15 feet to the side? They'd still be under shade, and I wouldn't have to be smoked up to get to work or lunch.

You know what? If the highly paid professional anti-smokers hadn't kicked smokers outside to smoke, we never would have had this problem!

Smokers had their smoking lounges, out of the view of the public, and no one had to walk through "cigarette smoke" to gain access to a building.

So, what do you propose for smokers now?  Where else are they to go?  huh?  It's not smoker's fault that they were kicked outside for all the world to see.  This was not our idea!

89 posted on 07/19/2006 7:30:35 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Xenalyte
What I do object to, however, is the way the smokers congregate JUST OUTSIDE the building door

I'm with you.

I prefer to smoke at my work station instead of just outside the building door.

170 posted on 07/19/2006 9:15:09 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Xenalyte

"What I do object to, however, is the way the smokers congregate JUST OUTSIDE the building door, so if you want in or out, you MUST go through that smoke. Why not move, say, 15 feet to the side? They'd still be under shade, and I wouldn't have to be smoked up to get to work or lunch."

Awwwww, well that's just too bad. People like you are the ones who forced them out there.


303 posted on 07/25/2006 10:56:24 PM PDT by nimbuscloud
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