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Marriott to make all US, Canada hotels non-smoking
Reuters ^ | 7/19/2006 | Reuters

Posted on 07/19/2006 4:47:01 AM PDT by xrp

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To: ilgipper; Hazcat
It will be interesting to see if smokers go elsewhere and impact these businesses.

We will go elsewhere and yes, it will impact their revenue.  But they are big enough to sustain the loss, I imagine.

But when it's vacation time, or our dime, we won't spend money where they won't accommodate all peoples.  Smokers and non-smokers a like. 

61 posted on 07/19/2006 7:11:48 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: pageonetoo
Chances are, the air outside where you wish to banish these folk is polluted with diesel fumes, car gases, cow flatulence, and various toxins, and the tobcco smoke is your problem?

Well, if you'd read my entire post, you would have seen that I advocate them moving 15 feet to the right or the left. They will still be under shade and cover. They just won't be making a freakin' cloud for EVERY SINGLE NON-SMOKER to walk through.

As far as the rest, we do in fact have diesel fumes, car gases, and various toxins, but I doubt there's much by way of cow flatulence in the high-rent Galleria area of Houston.

I would also question where the hell you got anything about second-hand smoke from my post, considering I didn't mention it.
62 posted on 07/19/2006 7:11:54 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Xenalyte; Raycpa

Meant post to ray, in response to your statements...ping


63 posted on 07/19/2006 7:12:21 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: SheLion

Marriott will accommodate smokers just the same way as they do non-smokers. They will not deny a smoker a room just because he is a smoker. They expect smokers and non-smokers alike not to smoke.

That seems like nothing more than equal treatment to me.


64 posted on 07/19/2006 7:13:01 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: CT-Freeper
Their company, their dollar, their choice.

Yep. Free enterprise.

I personally always get non-smoking rooms. The smoking rooms seem to have an "odor" to them that is rather unpleasant.

Ditto.

65 posted on 07/19/2006 7:13:19 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: xrp
Say it ain't so!!!

The cigar lounges in Ritz-Carlton hotels are among my favorite places on earth.

66 posted on 07/19/2006 7:13:20 AM PDT by wireman
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To: pageonetoo
"A few years ago, I began smoking cigars. They really stink good. Our main house is a 100 yr old farmhouse. It has an enclosed front porch, with casement windows across. I have it climate controlled, and I can watch the big screen through a glass window in the living room. I have speakers set out here, and my computer is right in front of the window (I'm watching Michael Palin: Sahara, that I recorded on DVR.). I can smoke out here, and my air cleaner cleanses most of the smoke. I also love to burn incense, Nag Champa from my earlier days. The aromas mingle and merge, and I enjoy an occasional glass of brandy or B&B (or Glenmorangie, or 1800 anejo, etc) to pair with the smoke. It's a marvelous enjoyment, in my ripe old 58 years.

I love it!

I have smoked in the "garage" for 39 years, due to the wife's insistence of smoke-free/smell-free inside the house.

My garage, however, is thermostatically controlled on a separate furnace, cable TV-equipped, dual phone-line equipped, network ready, and I run my business from the desk in there via a laptop on the network. Cellphone at hand, it's a beautiful thing, and peace/harmony is maintained with the spouse (however, when our 18-year-old dog passed away a couple years back, she insisted it was due to second-hand smoke, as the dog (two of them now) is my constant "office" companion.....

67 posted on 07/19/2006 7:14:17 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: AppyPappy; codercpc

When CoderCPC admitted upthread to knowing smoke smells, I almost had a heart attack . . . that might be the first time a smoker has allowed as much on FR!


68 posted on 07/19/2006 7:14:30 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Xenalyte
Well, if you'd read my entire post, you would have seen that I advocate them moving 15 feet to the right or the left.

Did you read mine. You think your shiite don't stink? Does anybody ask you not to use the bathroom near them? What if you had bad gas one day, after eating mexican food for lunch. do you get up from your desk and go fifteen feet outside the door?

69 posted on 07/19/2006 7:14:44 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: doc30; Gabz; O6ret
And it can lower the value of a home when it goes up for sale. The house I bought was from a smoker and we spent forever scrubbing the walls and ceiling. What we though were soft yellow walls were really white. The rinse water bucket looked like a spittoon when we were done a room. And we had to throw out all the carpeting because of the smell.

Gabz, you addressed this same spew not too long ago.  Will you please tell this ah, FReeper the truth?

Thanks!

(Funny how a little bleach can help! heh!

70 posted on 07/19/2006 7:15:26 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: pageonetoo

Yes, I did, and frankly I found it a rehash of former rants.

I try my best not to intrude my personal odors, whether intentional or accidental, on others.

Smokers who fog up entire doorways aren't being so considerate.


71 posted on 07/19/2006 7:16:19 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Xenalyte
"Marriott will accommodate smokers just the same way as they do non-smokers."

Yes, and both will be fined $200 if they are caught smoking in a non-smoking room. (At least in the last few stays I've had at Marriott's, that was the posted policy on the inside of the room door.

72 posted on 07/19/2006 7:17:28 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Xenalyte; pageonetoo
Smokers who fog up entire doorways aren't being so considerate.

And that's what it's all about. Just being considerate to others. Like we learned in Kindergarten.

73 posted on 07/19/2006 7:18:15 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: traditional1

I bought 43 acres in NM (23 miles to the nearest gas station), and hired some mexicans (legal) to build a little "hacienda". It's a thousand sq foot, with a good heat pump. But, the crown for me is the outside porch with the evaporative spray set-up. It keeps you 20 degrees cooler, and makes an excellent environment for smoking! the deer and the antelope don't give a damn!


74 posted on 07/19/2006 7:18:25 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: CT-Freeper
Same with us. Plus all of the ceilings in the house were covered with the awful "popcorn plaster" which was a filthy brown in many places. It took us many many hours to scrape all of the popcorn off down to just the plain, smooth plaster ceilings so we could give them a white-wash.

It's funny what a fresh coat of paint will do.  Pity the landlord never offered to give the place a fresh coat of paint while the tenants lived there.  Might have made all the difference in the world.  Cleanliness doesn't hurt either.


75 posted on 07/19/2006 7:18:52 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Xenalyte

Hmmm...also very strange. The word "Mormon" was used in this thread and no freeper has gone off on a tirade about polygamy. We are really slipping.


76 posted on 07/19/2006 7:19:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: 383rr

I'll bet nanny-state and her legion of worshippers are PO'd because they didn't get to force their will on this company.

A choice was made, that's fine by me.

I know what you mean.  But better the CEO's decision and not the lawmakers.


77 posted on 07/19/2006 7:21:16 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Hazcat
This is the way it should be done. No law passed, just the company's choice.

Absolutely correct...of course they must be aware they're pretty much writing off the Japanese tourist business....I'll get a closeup locally, because the Marriott Desert Springs has normally gotten tons of "golf tours".

78 posted on 07/19/2006 7:22:19 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: Xenalyte
It is not a rehash for me. I have not made the argumant previously. But, my complaint is with why you think you should have a say-so in my life, just because you do not like the smell. I am a considerate person (why do you think I am sitting on the porch, instead of my leather barcalounger?). But, I also expect consideration.

The intent of my post wat to call you a spoiled brat. That is what most people call someone who always says "Me, me, me!" I am not trying to be abrasive (though I know the words seem harsh), just truthful about your attitude. It is diagnosed as narcissitic in extremer forms.

79 posted on 07/19/2006 7:22:51 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Xenalyte
Can you really not see the distinction?

Your question is absurd.

I am not welcome anymore at Marriotts because I like to smoke a cigar when I am finished with work for the day. (BTW, I found this out about six months ago when they ACCEPTED my reservation for a smoking room, and then only told me about the policy when I went to check in. I had them find me a room at another hotel, and I won't be back at a Marriott if I can help it.)

How 'bout if they said they didn't want anyone to change diapers inside their hotels. Would you think they still "welcomed" mothers with infants or toddlers?

ML/NJ

80 posted on 07/19/2006 7:24:23 AM PDT by ml/nj
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