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Darwin's Beagle ship replica plan [for his 200th birthday]
BBC News ^ | 19 July 2006 | Staff

Posted on 07/19/2006 3:55:15 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

Plans are being drawn up to build a £3.3m working replica of the boat that took Charles Darwin around the world at Milford Haven in Pembrokeshire.

Fundraising for the project, which would mark the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth in 2009, is under way.

The aim is to built a seaworthy vessel identical to the HMS Beagle on the outside, but with a modern interior.

Darwin, who showed how natural selection could explain evolution, sailed on the Beagle between 1831-36.

Sitting opposite him on the expedition was mate and surveyor John Lort Stokes.

One of Stokes' descendents, Pembrokeshire farmer David Lort Philips, together with commercial yacht master Peter McGrath, have founded the Beagle Project Pembrokeshire.

Mr McGrath said the ship would look identical to the original Beagle on the outside but would have a 21st century interior with diesel auxiliary engines and generators.


Charles Darwin developed his early theories on board the Beagle

He said he hoped the fished vessel would inspire the scientists of the future and be used by researchers and scientists from across the world.

"Externally it will be exactly the same but we want it to do some serious scientific work and you would not want the crew living like they did in the 18th Century," he said.

The pair have spent three years putting their plans together and aim to raise the money through private and institutional investors along with public subscription.

"With all the Darwin 200 celebrations there is not one big project to focus the attention on," added Mr McGrath.

"I know the effect a square rigger has on young people - it's a jaw dropping site.

"But we do not want this just to be a replica - we want it to have genuine scientific benefits.

"We have started the fundraising. Construction will take 14 months and it has to be finished by early 2009.

"She will be built in Milford Haven and it will be her home. But what we want to do when she is built is visit the significant sights in Darwin's and the Beagle's life."

Researchers believe the original remains of the 27m-long Navy brig, that was sold for scrap in 1870, are embedded in a marsh near Potton Island in Essex.

Darwin, who published On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection in 1859, came fourth in a poll run by the BBC in 2002 to find the public's greatest Briton of all time.

His voyage on the Beagle allowed him to form the basis for much of his later work.


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To: Just mythoughts
"Evolution is NOT a capitalistic system else evolution could stand on its own and would not need GOVERNMENT to make it the law of the land and demand we the people fund it. It is socialistic at its very base."

It doesn't depend on the government. Creationism/ID on the other hand needs to have the government sneak it into the science classroom in an affirmative action program based on left-wing *diversity* ideology.
61 posted on 07/19/2006 6:59:52 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: Thatcherite
Interesting how the creationists (with their detailed historical knowledge) weren't lining up to correct me on that one.

The 'spin-state' of said historical facts have insufficient importance in their creationsist ideology to warrant memorization.

62 posted on 07/19/2006 7:06:08 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Thatcherite

The sentence I highlighted in my first reply to you should answer your question.

I enjoy watching the Evo/Non-Evo arguments with popcorn but I dismiss any argument that uses the "intelligence" of a person or persons as a prop to validate one side of the debate. That argument style is usually employed by the evolutionists.


63 posted on 07/19/2006 7:16:43 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: Fester Chugabrew
There's nothing superstitious about the biblical texts. They are a bright light that obliviates superstition and sets the reader on the right path to wisdom and understanding.

"Hallowed be the Auri...."

64 posted on 07/19/2006 7:17:30 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: PatrickHenry
"Externally it will be exactly the same but we want it to do some serious scientific work and you would not want the crew living like they did in the 18th Century," he said.

Uh, shouldn't that read 19th Century?

65 posted on 07/19/2006 7:23:47 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Life is like a cow pasture, it's hard to get through without stepping in some mess. NRA.)
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To: atlaw
You may want to take that up with the Institute for Creation Research, which seems to think that the theory of evolution is responsible for the rise of "Ruthless Laissez Faire Capitalism."

Darwin's Influence on Ruthless Laissez Faire Capitalism. That Darwin was certainly a sneaky guy. He had all the bases covered. He was not only responsible for Marx and Hitler, but for capitalism too. It's amazing what one can learn from creationists.

66 posted on 07/19/2006 7:50:21 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The Enlightenment gave us individual rights, free enterprise, and the theory of evolution.)
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To: TonyRo76; tomzz

Thanks for ruining a potentially pleasant thread, about a modern square-rigged sailing ship, within the first few posts!!! You jump into a thread about a ship, and instantly begin to spout your vile lies. Do you constantly search for threads that mention Darwin, so you can pounce and ruin them? You should be ashamed - although I know you won't be.


67 posted on 07/19/2006 8:00:31 AM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: tomzz
What about the 200,000,000 people who've been killed by doctrines based on Darwins ideas? They gonna build any sort of a monument for them?

Thread hijack alert.

68 posted on 07/19/2006 8:06:56 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
They are a bright light that obliviates superstition and sets the reader on the right path to wisdom and understanding

Please demonstrate that this claim is true.
69 posted on 07/19/2006 8:10:52 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: JCEccles
A fluff story about the atheists' ark.

How enlightening.

At least this one is real.

70 posted on 07/19/2006 8:11:26 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: bigcat32

He didn't say intelligence (or lack thereof). He said ignorance. And that appellation certainly applies.


71 posted on 07/19/2006 8:13:25 AM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: 2nsdammit

The use of that type of argument is weak.


72 posted on 07/19/2006 8:16:39 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: PatrickHenry
If I were a whaky Creationzoid/IDiac I wouldn't worry about this at all, since on its maiden voyage the ship will fall off the edge of the Earth anyways, because we all know the Earth is flat.

73 posted on 07/19/2006 8:19:12 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: bigcat32

There are none so ignorant as he who will not learn.


74 posted on 07/19/2006 8:22:37 AM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: 2nsdammit

"Avoid having your ego so close to your position that when your position falls,your ego goes with it."

--Colin Powell


75 posted on 07/19/2006 8:29:46 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: tomzz
"What about the 200,000,000 people who've been killed by doctrines based on Darwins ideas?"

The doctrine's weren't based on Darwin's ideas. They were based on the con jobs of self centered tyrants. That's the commonality these doctrines have with the religiously flavored ones that were responsible for killing people. Darwin's ideas are true and they have nothing to do with killing folks.

76 posted on 07/19/2006 8:32:47 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: RadioAstronomer
" Logic and reason just doesn't seem to be in the cards for these folks."

Logical reasoning is required in order for Freedom to flourish. One more thing is required though and that's that the truth is the foundation and goal. Some folks aren't really interested in Freedom though. In others the reasoning has juat been hampered in some way.

77 posted on 07/19/2006 8:45:33 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


78 posted on 07/19/2006 8:50:52 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: bigcat32

Wow, project much?


79 posted on 07/19/2006 8:54:57 AM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: 2nsdammit

No.


80 posted on 07/19/2006 8:58:05 AM PDT by bigcat32
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