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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
This is EXACTLY what is so frustrating. The French had a ferry leave yesterday with 1,200 people on board. It is back this morning for a second load. And they have another ship with 600 capacity coming today.

The U.S. thus far has evacuated fewer citizens than the French took out on their ferry yesterday.

Why is the French bureaucracy more efficient than our own?

81 posted on 07/18/2006 1:34:25 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: rebel_yell2
Why is the French bureaucracy more efficient than our own?

I'm guessing it is because US citizens are a much more valuable target for terrorists and additional security precautions need to be put in place. Additionally, the State Department is incompetent. They should have transferred the evacuation operation to Central Command.

96 posted on 07/18/2006 1:39:21 AM PDT by burzum (Despair not! I shall inspire you by charging blindly on!--Minsc, BG2)
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To: rebel_yell2
Why is the French bureaucracy more efficient than our own?

maybe you forget the muslim population in france and that we are the "great satan" ?

97 posted on 07/18/2006 1:39:40 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: rebel_yell2

If France has the same size staff as the USA has, but an order of magnitude fewer people in Lebanon, wouldn't you think the French departure would be a LITTLE quicker?


99 posted on 07/18/2006 1:40:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: rebel_yell2
Other Freepers have pointed out some logical statements. Other countries (especially ones such as France) have more options than the United States. Some can move their people through Syria, and France (which has close ties to Southwest Asia in general and the Levant in particular) can move in military ships. The United States has apparently chartered a civilian ship so as to not seem as though they are invading.

Also, the threat to obvious American ships and people is higher than for other nationalities.

Seems unAmerican, but you could try to pass for Canadian, though simply laying low until contacted by the government would probably work.

107 posted on 07/18/2006 1:44:08 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: rebel_yell2

France can act quicker with its imperial past ties to the area and the sheer numbers much smaller. Those are combined factors in their favor.

From the TV reports which are probably limited, the targets appear to be based in Southern Beirut and the military assets on the coast. Hopefully, you and others are far away from those hazardous areas.

Can you tell us anything about the attitudes of the local people? It appears from the reporting that people don't want to say much there, so as to not offend anyone and create a "civil war" mindset.

But I also heard a report that the antipathy to Hezzbollah was strong and that when bombs came on their areas, people on the surrounding areas were applauding.


146 posted on 07/18/2006 1:58:16 AM PDT by romanesq (.)
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To: rebel_yell2
Why is the French bureaucracy more efficient than our own?

Because the French travellers are more easily spotted with their white flags aloft. ;)

More seriously, I suspect that you'll be getting out soon. US State, like the rest of the fed, is a slow, inefficient blob at times.

149 posted on 07/18/2006 1:59:56 AM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: rebel_yell2
Why is the French bureaucracy more efficient than our own?

Might be because the country of France has a Mediterranean coast line. They have plenty of assets in the area. No excuses, but there has been sea trade between the eastern Med coast and the southern French/Europe coast since ancient times.

159 posted on 07/18/2006 2:06:29 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: rebel_yell2

< Why is the French bureaucracy more efficient than our own? >

Personally, I don't think it is. Americans are always targets. More and better planning has to be used. Despite what some may think, I believe the enemy, be it Hamas, Hezbollah or Al Quiada would just love to get a bunch of Americans in a group as sitting ducks. They won't target the French and others. They will Americans.


273 posted on 07/18/2006 3:49:32 AM PDT by GOP_Proud ("Literary flair” = "I lied". Lawsuit is zotted.)
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To: rebel_yell2
Why is the French bureaucracy more efficient than our own?

Good question. But then again, we are talking here about the windbags of Foggy Bottom, so the answer should be obvious.

Isn't this also the same crowd who gave blanket US Visas to Saudi terrorists who filled out their applications in crayon with blank spaces and addresses of University parking lots?

393 posted on 07/18/2006 6:06:48 AM PDT by Gritty (The State Department's strategy is 'talk forever-act never'. - Newt Gingrich)
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To: rebel_yell2
Good morning.
"Why is the French bureaucracy more efficient than our own?"

The French have a history in Lebanon. The French are buddies to the Islamonazis while anything flying the American flag is a minion of The Great Satan and a potential target.

I'm curious about a couple of things. How are you staying on line, and have you seen any Americans or other foreigners directly endangered by anyone yet?

I'm also curious as to why you would expect more from the State Department than you are getting. Look to the military or your own wits if you want out or get on that French flag ferry. Other than that, all you can do is hunker down and keep sending posts to the FreeRepublic.

Think of the stories you will be able to tell at parties when you get home.

Michael Frazier
460 posted on 07/18/2006 7:35:41 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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