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To: Congressman Billybob
Was it possible to negotiate an end to war with Adolf Hitler and Germany?

Everything has a price. Hitler did want to negotiate (after Dunkirk) but the price would have been: Germany gets mainland Europe and England gets left alone. Churchill and all reasonable people were willing to do what it took to take Hitler down and we did.

In today's climate though, if the Democrats were in charge, dollars to donuts they would give Europe to a Socialist dictator and let him do what he wanted in his own country to people he did not want.

Am I wrong? Witness the Democrats seeming willingness to support Hamas, their silence regarding Iraq, their willingness to allow missiles in NK and their willingness to allow a mass murderer like Saddam to remain in power.

Yes, today's Democrats would have negotiated with Hitler.

God help us if they get the WH in '08.

16 posted on 07/17/2006 4:13:04 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money -- M. Thatcher)
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To: Michael.SF.
Everything has a price. Hitler did want to negotiate (after Dunkirk) but the price would have been: Germany gets mainland Europe and England gets left alone.

That would have been "just for openners." Hitler would have demanded more from Britain -- like basing rights in the Empire, right of access to the Suez Canal (to form junction with the Japanese), etc. Britain would have been Vichy-ized.

21 posted on 07/17/2006 4:30:57 PM PDT by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: Michael.SF.; Tallguy

"Everything has a price. Hitler did want to negotiate (after Dunkirk) but the price would have been: Germany gets mainland Europe and England gets left alone. Churchill and all reasonable people were willing to do what it took to take Hitler down and we did."

"That would have been "just for openners." Hitler would have demanded more from Britain -- like basing rights in the Empire, right of access to the Suez Canal (to form junction with the Japanese), etc. Britain would have been Vichy-ized."

"Closers" would have had the UK occupied by Germany a couple of years later, on some pretext, after the Germans had better and more transports, better armed soldiers (full auto guns), King Tigers, jets, etc., and Britain would've fallen in a few days at most. Then Hitler would've come after the US, whom he viewed as the ultimate enemy. If you want more background on that last statement, watch a History Channel documentary entitled "Hitler's Other Book," about an unpublished sequel to Mein Kampf. Scary stuff...and we were definitely on Hitler's "to be conquered" list.

"Yes, today's Democrats would have negotiated with Hitler.

God help us if they get the WH in '08."

For a rather sobering look at a future where the "Here's your sign" crowd has run policy for too long in the present conflict/war, take a look at http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm


54 posted on 07/17/2006 9:51:18 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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