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To: webstersII
The Japanese would NEVER go for that. They really do believe in the zero defect ideals and they would never take the chance of losing face in such a way.

You obviously are unaware of all the Toyota recalls of late? You know why? Because the MSM is not only to the left politically, they are also anti-American auto industry. Japanese recalls are found on the back page while American recalls are front page news. Flame me if you want, but check it out for yourself. I am sick of GM/Ford bashers. Especially the ones who are so critical of the MSM when it comes to politics, yet believe everything else they read.

52 posted on 07/17/2006 8:29:47 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: SMM48
You know why? Because the MSM is not only to the left politically, they are also anti-American auto industry. Japanese recalls are found on the back page while American recalls are front page news. Flame me if you want, but check it out for yourself. I am sick of GM/Ford bashers. Especially the ones who are so critical of the MSM when it comes to politics, yet believe everything else they read.

I'm a card carrying GM/Ford basher. My opinions are not based on the MSM coverage. They are based on practical ownership experience with GM, Ford, Toyota and Honda products.

I had horrible real life experiences with Ford and GM products. One of my GM cars spent 52 days in the shop in the first year of ownership. My Hondas and Toyotas have been solid, reliable and durable products. There plenty of practical reasons for the popularity of the Accord and the Camry.

56 posted on 07/17/2006 8:44:34 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski (No good deed goes unpunished.)
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To: SMM48

"You obviously are unaware of all the Toyota recalls of late? You know why? Because the MSM is not only to the left politically, they are also anti-American auto industry."

I'm not unaware of that. I am just telling you that they think our products are inferior.


90 posted on 07/17/2006 6:41:27 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: SMM48

This is absolutely true!


99 posted on 07/18/2006 3:36:23 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: SMM48

Case in point:

Forbes putting out a video clip discussing the "worst american cars". The criteria were very fair - several categories based on objective criteria, such as safety features, mpg, depreciation, worst emissions, etc.

The problem is that there was no "worst foreign cars" segment - and many of those categories would have been dead heats if you had foreign cars included. The lack of this and the singling out of american cars only perpetuates perceptions...

And since when did poor resale value make a car a bad car? If you care about saving money, you keep the car until its wheels fall off.

The *AVERAGE* car will last 14 years. Most Ford vehicles are average, according to Consumer Reports (so was the Camry until recently, btw). Who cares what the value is after 3 years if it lasts 14? Or if you buy used, and you get it after 3 years and it lasts 14, the higher the depreciation during those 3 years, the better. Sometimes that is an indicator of poor quality, sometimes it isn't. Forbes dinged the Crown Vic for depreciation. Of course, it is also one of the most reliable vehicles on the market (they've had plenty of practice) and one of the safest. That makes it a great used car deal...


102 posted on 07/18/2006 6:41:23 AM PDT by eraser2005
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