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Hezbollah Appears in Control of Lebanon
Associated Press (excerpt) ^ | July 16, 2006

Posted on 07/16/2006 1:40:23 PM PDT by HAL9000

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To: Flavius
i think idf is working on disarmament

I think idf is working on dismemberment.

Shalom.

21 posted on 07/16/2006 2:07:34 PM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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To: Sabramerican
That's a pretty good list you got there.

L

22 posted on 07/16/2006 2:09:23 PM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: HAL9000
"We are now fighting a battle for the (Islamic) nation."

I suggest the leadership of Saudi Arabia start thinking about what this implies. Kuwait should know. The rest of the states should know.

This isn't only about Israel. If Israel were destroyed, the attention of these sand-rats would turn toward other national leaderships in the Middle-East.

23 posted on 07/16/2006 2:10:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: Just A Nobody

Ok who Israel? Are they preparing or do they have the political will to go in and occupy Southern Lebanon like they did in last time. Perhaps they do, but I am not sensing the political will to do that at this point. It very well might develop thought so who knows We see how hard it is Iraq to disarm folks. So this can't be a few week adventure. Besides the UN who else? THe French? Nato? The US?


24 posted on 07/16/2006 2:11:19 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: HAL9000
AP like the NYT are a bunch of traitors. Well, if the West does lose this war, it will be nice to see these stupid j@ck@$$e$ to be the first hanged from the tallest tree.

Just in case you missed the latest from the GDBs! GRRRRRR....

NY Times does it again-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666501/posts
25 posted on 07/16/2006 2:11:34 PM PDT by Chgogal (2006 - The US Military fights for Freedom of the Press while the NYT cowers in a traitorous pose.)
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To: catholicfreeper
I know that people hate the UN and getting them involved but I ma open to suggestions who can actually disarm these people so we can actually have the Lebanese troops on that border and not Hezbullah.

They're called the IDF.

26 posted on 07/16/2006 2:12:16 PM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: catholicfreeper
If they want to save their country, but are helpless to do so, the parliament of Lebanon could pass a resolution "inviting" a multi-national force to intervene and disarm Hezbollah.

Israel should not have to solely bear the full burden of disarming these terrorists who are a global threat.

27 posted on 07/16/2006 2:13:18 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

Well that could work. In fact the leader over there basically said the same thing under the guises of the UN. OF course I doubt if he would object if was some sort of other multi national force.


28 posted on 07/16/2006 2:15:29 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: catholicfreeper
Besides the UN who else? THe French? Nato? The US?

It could be an ad-hoc "coalition of the willing".

29 posted on 07/16/2006 2:15:45 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Lurker

If we send Karen Hughes there another 56231256842685 times, she will convince 2 or 3 Arabs to like us.

If we force Israel to back down and stop before its war aims are concluded, Hughes will definitely get that third Arab to like us.

We can trust Pakistan.

More


30 posted on 07/16/2006 2:16:28 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Rice is Harriet Miers at State.)
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To: catholicfreeper
The Lebanese army is pretty powerless to do anything.

Why? We had all that public expression of "joy" a while back at possible liberation from Syrian control, and then ... nothing. Yes, it's tough; yes, Hezbollah are thugs and murderers, but instead of at least using this opportunity -- while the world's attention is so focused -- to at least condemn what Hezbollah has brought down on their heads, they do nothing but condemn Israel and whine and cower about how helpless they are.

There seems to be only two extremes in Middle Eastern culture: helplessness or wanton brutality.

To paraphrase Bernard Lewis, it's time Muslims and what's left of non-Muslim middle easterners start asking "What did we do wrong?" instead of "Who can we blame for this?"

31 posted on 07/16/2006 2:19:03 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: catholicfreeper

"do they have the political will"
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I don't think it has much to do with politics. Israel must do what they need to do. It is literally life or death for them. They do not have the luxury of being political or PC. Check out this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666783/posts?page=9#9


32 posted on 07/16/2006 2:22:00 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: libstripper

Yeah, giving lunatics more power makes them moderate their position. The only thing that amazes me is that anyone could even pretend, with a straight face, that giving the Palestinians their own country would produce anything other than a terrorist state. The Islamists kill everyone that disagrees with them, then have an election, and people are surprised that the new government is composed of murdering lunatics.


33 posted on 07/16/2006 2:23:19 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: mtbopfuyn

Hez is really dreaming away. Isreal is cleaning their clocks bigtime.


34 posted on 07/16/2006 2:27:11 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: libstripper
"Elections last year gave Hezbollah a strong parliament presence of 11 lawmakers and two seats in the Cabinet, increasing predictions among many Lebanese that the group would abandon guerrilla action and become a political party."

They are elected to the Lebanese government....They represent the Lebanese government...They kidnap foreign soldiers....an act of war on behalf of Lebanon..
35 posted on 07/16/2006 2:29:18 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: browardchad

I would not quite say that factons in Lebanon have done nothing. In fact many people there have lost there lives inclusing political leaders and others trying to make change. We see with the help of the most powerful military in the World how the work is tough in Iraq. We make great progress every day but its tougher than we imagined. Also as to Lebonese not criticizing Hezbullah. That is not what I am reading over there. Their Leader last night came pretty close there as you could without probally having a bullet put through his head within 24 hours.

I think the debate among the rank and file Lebanese is not if to destroy them but the tactics of how. I am monitering these Leabanes blogs and the big question they are asking is why not Syria is not getting bombed.

I don't endorse this widespread condemnation of Israel either.


36 posted on 07/16/2006 2:37:48 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: HAL9000
though he looked tired and stressed

That's because his days are numbered and he knows it. Israel will chase him all the way to Tehran if they have to.

37 posted on 07/16/2006 2:59:39 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: catholicfreeper

I wonder what caused such a 180 from last night??


38 posted on 07/16/2006 3:00:09 PM PDT by sasha123 (Where's Jack?)
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To: aumrl

""Disarm these people" ?? I suggest a more permanent solution"

Ya, like when they use the word "disarm" here it means dismember.


39 posted on 07/16/2006 3:13:14 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: browardchad
Why? We had all that public expression of "joy" a while back at possible liberation from Syrian control, and then ... nothing. Yes, it's tough; yes, Hezbollah are thugs and murderers, but instead of at least using this opportunity -- while the world's attention is so focused -- to at least condemn what Hezbollah has brought down on their heads,

The prime minister has, repeatedly.

He also is criticizing Israel's response as counter-productive, which based on my limited information, seems to be the case.

Lebanon is a weak state with few resources to deal with Hezbollah, which is backed by two foreign states, Iran and Syria. How is it helping to destroy Lebanon's infrastructure?

But you're right, they should do more. If they're serious, they need to expell Hezbollah from the governing coalition and invite Israel to engage in a joint operation with the Lebanese army in ridding Southern Lebanon of the Hezbollah militias.

I hope that is what will happen, and I think it's plausible. However, I don't see how some of Israel's current actions are going to facilitate such an outcome.

40 posted on 07/16/2006 3:30:24 PM PDT by curiosity
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