7/16 Middle East Live Thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666163/posts ^ | 7/16/06 | me

[BurbankKarl]

09:19 MDA: More than 20 people hurt in Katyusha rocket strike in Haifa (Channel 2)

09:16 Residents of Acre, Haifa and its suburbs told to enter bomb shelters (Israel Radio)

09:15 Tenth Katyusha rocket lands in Haifa (Israel Radio)

09:15 Explosions heard in Rosh Hanikra (Israel Radio)

09:11 Katyusha rockets hit Acre and suburbs around Haifa Bay (Channel 2)

09:06 Report: Three to five explosion heard in central Haifa (Israel Radio)

08:47 Chirac: Forces threatening Lebanon`s security, sovereignty must be stopped (AP)

08:41 Sgt. Tal Amgar killed on Navy ship to be buried 16.00 Sun. at Ashdod cemetery (Itim)

08:39 Chirac calls for `show of moderation` in Lebanon, says cease-fire needed (Reuters)

08:37 IDF denies report of air raid on power station south of Beirut (Haaretz)

08:36 Hezbollah says it fought off attempt by IDF ground forces to cross Lebanese border (AP)

08:35 Bush urges Israel `to be mindful of the consequences` of its military actions (AP)

08:19 Jewish man arrested after threatening to stab Palestinians in J`lem`s Old City (Itim)

08:15 Al Manar: Nasrallah to give an interview later Sunday to prove he`s well (Israel Radio)

[jeffers]

I put together a better map than the one we've been using, after tiring of paging back and forth to find vertical elevation. For reference, the brightest greens run 3500 to 4100 feet above sea level, while the brightest yellows, southwest of Damascus for example, top out just under 9000 feet ASL.

This is the general idea in small format for a quick load:



If you want the full version, it runs 281 KB and can be downloaded at this link:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/jeffers_mz/lebanon_pol_2002plusDEMpoint3comp.jpg

The registration isn't perfect, and the projection is a little strange, but the overlay really wasn't intended to be used this way.

For the technically inclined, this is a 30 meter per pixel Digital Elevation Model, from the GTOPO30 dataset, with a raster image drape done using Global Mapper with 4 point manual registration, rendered using Photoshop 5.0 and saved at 30% JPEG compression.

I will conditionally release the image to the public domain for non-commercial use, provided no-one uses it to publicly illustrate combat operations currently underway or operations planned for future execution.

[carmenbmw]

Thanks once again for all the great info!
I WAS regretting not having TV access until I read some of yalls comments......
Yikes! The TV would be thrown out the window by now, lol

[defconw]

I believe so. I can remember which book I read it in. But I do remember the accusation.

[jeffers]

Sorry, that map link should be:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/jeffers_mz/lebanon_pol_2002plusDEMpoint3comp.jpg

[AliVeritas]

re: Vlad

But boy could he hold off some muslim turks... what a scene.

Oh, here: http://counterterrorismblog.org/

[mainepatsfan]

I also recall Dick Morris saying that when he asked Clinton for a raise Hillary said something like, "That's all YOU PEOPLE care about."

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I feel sorry for your friend...but this situation was inevitable. Lebanon has been hurt so bad by having terrorists in its bosom, but has not had the power to keep them out. First they got bit by the PLO, and now it's the Hizbolah. Neither group has done that country any real favors...

[mainepatsfan]

Don't expect the MSM to point that out.

[AliVeritas]

They're getting desparate in Lebanon... the Hezzies will start snatching people if they don't get them out. Syria will not let us pass through. If anything happens to one US citizen... that's their ass.

[defconw]

Well of course not.

[good old days]

Thanks for posting this.

[jeffers]

Peach wrote:
Not good. Iran has really been helping out Hezbollah even more than we previously thought, I'll bet.



This, from Haaretz:

"15:43
Iran: Hezbollah will not be disarmed, despite calls from Israel and U.S.
(Reuters)"

...spells the relationship out succintly, and ups the ante significantly as well.

[rightwingintelligentsia]

If Israel (or the U.S.) backs down now then Iran has won.

[defconw]

LOL! I am glad the President keeps an eye on him. Condi is on Chris Wallace, won't divulge the plan for getting Americans out, says she's monitoring it. "We will do what we have to do."

[stopem]

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=200&nid=8

"Iran gave Hizballah 11,500 missiles and rockets"

[Bulldaddy]

At the risk of sounding a little like Kos here, I've personally never had much sympathy for Americans who voluntarily go, and take their families, to potential or actual war zones like Beirut, whether the purpose of their presence is work or vacation.

If you go to places like that at the request of the gov't and with its express or implicit agreement to protect you, then the gov't has a duty to get you out safely. But otherwise, you're pretty much on your own. So good luck with all that.

[SE Mom]

Nice! Thanks for this..

[jeffers]

rightwingintelligentsia wrote:
If Israel (or the U.S.) backs down now then Iran has won.



The Soviets won in Vietnam, lost in Afghanistan, and conceeded the board in 1990.

In my opinion, Iran wins when they have nuclear weapons, and when we agree to any price for oil they choose to charge, including converting to Islam.

My response to that scenario would be "Not over my cold, dead planet."

[Pox]

Olmert is already "backing down". Prior to today, they were insisting that hezbollah be disarmed and they be removed from the southern Lebanon border, and their 2 troops be released in order to stop the Israeli assault.

As of this morning, according to CNN and Fox, Israel sent conditions to the Lebanese government via Italy, and the Israeli conditions to stop the assault is release the 2 kidnapped troops, and hezbollah must be removed from the southern Lebanese border.

No more demand that UN 1559 be carried out.