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To: Hazcat
By "others misery" I meant "other business owners". You know, those that lost business or went out of business because of the "nanny law".

Assuming that the same percentage of patrons went out before and after the ban. Many people passed on going out because of the raunchy stench of smoke odor permeating everything on their body including clothes and hair. Now there's a whole new market of people to appeal to. Families who don't want their children to have to deal with the smoke, etc. Sure, nonsmoking restaurants could exist now, but your strategy is to post it on their door whether or not they're smoking. Most families would not bother to know the establishments that allow smoking. Plus, the establishments that would have a waiver would see the business of the businesses which chose not to get a waiver. Sure, customers may change loyalties. This does not mean business declines.

69 posted on 07/15/2006 9:13:01 AM PDT by Dan Nunn
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To: Dan Nunn

"Sure, nonsmoking restaurants could exist now, but your strategy is to post it on their door whether or not they're smoking. Most families would not bother to know the establishments that allow smoking"

So because people who worry about their children are also too stupid or too lazy to check a place out everyone must suffer. Gee, what a sensible argument (not).


77 posted on 07/15/2006 9:42:38 AM PDT by Hazcat
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To: Dan Nunn; Hazcat
Assuming that the same percentage of patrons went out before and after the ban. Many people passed on going out because of the raunchy stench of smoke odor permeating everything on their body including clothes and hair. Now there's a whole new market of people to appeal to. Families who don't want their children to have to deal with the smoke, etc. Sure, nonsmoking restaurants could exist now, but your strategy is to post it on their door whether or not they're smoking. Most families would not bother to know the establishments that allow smoking. Plus, the establishments that would have a waiver would see the business of the businesses which chose not to get a waiver. Sure, customers may change loyalties. This does not mean business declines.

And who the hell wants kids in a bar and/or tavern anyway?  We adults are entitled to SOME recreation without kids. Geesh!  Always for the kids.  Well, what about people who HAVE no kids?  They shouldn't be made to suffer because of it!

As for revenue going up after a smoking ban, tell it to THIS business owner in Washington State!

  The anti's promised PROMISED the business owners that they would have more revenue from all the people that didn't smoke!  All these people would be beating down their doors.  Guess what?  Didn't happen.  And it won't happen either.

80 posted on 07/15/2006 9:55:27 AM PDT by SheLion ("If you're legal, you can fly with the Eagle!" - Michael Anthony)
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To: Dan Nunn
Now there's a whole new market of people to appeal to.

And the mom & pop restaurants are disappearing.

Hope you enjoy dining at McTacoApplebeesKFC.

172 posted on 07/15/2006 8:48:22 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Dan Nunn

"Assuming that the same percentage of patrons went out before and after the ban. Many people passed on going out because of the raunchy stench of smoke odor permeating everything on their body including clothes and hair. Now there's a whole new market of people to appeal to."

Did you click on SheLion's link??? This whole new market still doesn't go into these places.

And your friend with the waiver making more money? Well, duh...there's less places for smokers to go, of course he'll make more money.


262 posted on 07/18/2006 11:24:28 AM PDT by Dasaji (...If you can't laugh at it, you'll go crazy!)
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