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To: Mount Athos
Oh, spare us the "victim" crap, this time.

The judge gave an order, the defendant did not comply, the judge decided the order had not been relayed properly and dropped the matter.

Simple, isn't it?

4 posted on 07/14/2006 8:27:26 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

>>>Oh, spare us the "victim" crap, this time. The judge gave an order, the defendant did not comply, the judge decided the order had not been relayed properly and dropped the matter. Simple, isn't it?<<<

The ACLU will be contacting you shortly to ask if you will appear in one of their anti-Christian commercials.


5 posted on 07/14/2006 8:32:47 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: Izzy Dunne
Oh, spare us the "victim" crap, this time. ... Simple, isn't it?

No, not really. The trial was over. Removing him from the courtroom by placing him in jail accomplishes nothing. Were it in the middle of the case and the judge needed to maintain courtroom decorum, it would be one thing, but the trial was over and he was leaving. What was the point of arresting him and preventing his departure other than just a little power trip on the part of the judge?

This part was left out of the excerpt: Stowers asked to approach the bench and apologize, but the judge told him he could not." I'm sorry that is just wrong.

11 posted on 07/14/2006 8:39:41 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Izzy Dunne
If there wasn't a victim there would be no story.

IMO your beef seems to be with the news item in particular as opposed to the actual story.

13 posted on 07/14/2006 8:41:55 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: Izzy Dunne
Oh, spare us the "victim" crap, this time.

The judge gave an order, the defendant did not comply, the judge decided the order had not been relayed properly and dropped the matter.

Simple, isn't it?

Nope. Being told about the order would help.

Court minutes said Border later dropped the charge because he realized Stowers' trial lawyer, Deputy Public Defender Carmel Kwock, did not have time to tell Stowers the judge had ordered both sides not to show emotion when the verdict was announced.

15 posted on 07/14/2006 8:44:22 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Think that judge might show emotion in a courtroom when the True Judge tells him "Depart from me you cursed one into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels"?


17 posted on 07/14/2006 8:46:20 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"Oh, spare us the "victim" crap, this time."

I think he was a victim. He did nothing worthy of jail and in my book, that makes him a victim.

FRegards, DocRock
23 posted on 07/14/2006 8:59:02 PM PDT by DocRock
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To: Izzy Dunne
The judge gave an order,...

The judge is a pompous ass that has no tolerance or common sense.
31 posted on 07/14/2006 9:18:28 PM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: Izzy Dunne
did not have time to tell Stowers the judge had ordered both sides not to show emotion when the verdict was announced

How is that possibly legitimate? Since when were judges dictators? Can they tell you not to blink during a hearing?

39 posted on 07/14/2006 10:05:08 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

"Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus."

I'll agree with that.


40 posted on 07/14/2006 10:16:49 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (Largest oil reserves in the world found in Colorado and Utah. Oil shale.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
The judge gave an order, the defendant did not comply, the judge decided the order had not been relayed properly and dropped the matter.

Simple, isn't it?

Sorry, but the defendant was not briefed by his lawyer as to the Judge's order, hence how could he comply?
54 posted on 07/15/2006 12:14:43 AM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
When a judge unfairly jails a defendant for an outburst of exuberance in defiance of a ruling the defendant was NOT informed of, then the judge is out of line. This defendant spent 6 hours of his life in a jail cell because he was NOT informed that the judge had issued a ruling to the lawyers re over-exuberant displays that was not passed on to the defending councilor's client. In this case, if the judge had a problem, then he should have taken it out on the defending councilor, but to declare that this is "simple" will never give that defendant his 6 hours of life back. IMHO, there needs to be citizen review of judges making questionable decisions like this one. Judges are not gods, yet they often behave as if they are.
71 posted on 07/17/2006 12:43:28 PM PDT by Surtur (Free Trade is NOT Fair Trade unless both economies are equivalent.)
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