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7/14: Middle East Live Thread
7/15/06 | me

Posted on 07/14/2006 6:08:50 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Israeli gunners cover their ears as an artillery piece fires into southern Lebanon from a position on the border near Kiryat Shmona, northern Israel, Friday, July 14, 2006.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; melivethread; middleeast; ww3
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To: homemom
Colmes is almost always on the "wrong" side . . .he's so pitiful!

Almost, homemom? You're too kind to that nitwit. Name one issue on which Colmes has been right. I will promptly rethink my position on that issue.

141 posted on 07/14/2006 6:53:52 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Liberals aren't having so much fun now that the rabbit has the gun. --Ann Coulter)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Have you seen this ? (didn't see you yet.)


142 posted on 07/14/2006 6:54:09 PM PDT by justche (If you're afraid of the future, then get out of the way, stand aside. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: RDTF
"he's fishin for votes"

Precisely. A publicity hound, and media whore. But leadership skills? zERO

143 posted on 07/14/2006 6:54:13 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Lizarde
He even has his own Wikipedia entry.
144 posted on 07/14/2006 6:54:31 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: Txsleuth

OK - George Allen is going to be next on Larry King.
Did I mention I hate CNN. Shame on Fox for pushing me over there.


145 posted on 07/14/2006 6:54:37 PM PDT by daybreakcoming ("We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Vannity & Homely.

Now that's funny.

146 posted on 07/14/2006 6:55:27 PM PDT by Chuck54 ("What you take to Vegas, stays in Vegas.")
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To: Lizarde
Even if you could understand him - he still talks like a whiney little kid. Syrian ambass, that is.
147 posted on 07/14/2006 6:56:05 PM PDT by daybreakcoming ("We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
"Colmes is about as Jewish as Uncle Ted is Catholic."

You mean "uncle Teddy" as in Kennedy... Uncle Ted as in Nugent.
148 posted on 07/14/2006 6:56:25 PM PDT by bella1 (Support the Minuteman Project.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Let's have a thread where we can consolidate all the latest happenings over in the Middle East.


149 posted on 07/14/2006 6:56:30 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I think Randy Travis must be paying his bills on home computer by now)
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To: SE Mom

This is really the first time McCain has sided with Israel. He's seriously running for President. His support for Israel is about as phony as Hillary's support for the WOT.


150 posted on 07/14/2006 6:56:42 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: rip033

If Iran wants to jump in, they have to go through Iraq.


151 posted on 07/14/2006 6:56:56 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: BurbankKarl

Thanks!


152 posted on 07/14/2006 6:57:24 PM PDT by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves)
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To: BurbankKarl; PhilDragoo
From Stratfor - intel

Excerpts:

Therefore, this is one Israeli action that benefits the United States, and thus helps the immediate situation as well as long-term geopolitical alignments. It realigns the United States and Israel. This also argues that any invasion must be devastating to Hezbollah. It must go deep. It must occupy temporarily. It must shatter Hezbollah.

At this point, the Israelis appear to be unrolling a war plan in this direction. They have blockaded the Lebanese coast. Israeli aircraft are attacking what air power there is in Lebanon, and have attacked Hezbollah and other key command-and-control infrastructure. It would follow that the Israelis will now concentrate on destroying Hezbollah -- and Lebanese -- communications capabilities and attacking munitions dumps, vehicle sites, rocket-storage areas and so forth.

Most important, Israel is calling up its reserves. This is never a symbolic gesture in Israel. All Israelis below middle age are in the reserves and mobilization is costly in every sense of the word. If the Israelis were planning a routine reprisal, they would not be mobilizing. But they are, which means they are planning to do substantially more than retributive airstrikes. The question is what their plan is.

Given the blockade and what appears to be the shape of the airstrikes, it seems to us at the moment the Israelis are planning to go fairly deep into Lebanon. The logical first step is a move to the Litani River in southern Lebanon. But given the missile attacks on Haifa, they will go farther, not only to attack launcher sites, but to get rid of weapons caches. This means a move deep into the Bekaa Valley, the seat of Hezbollah power and the location of plants and facilities. Such a penetration would leave Israeli forces' left flank open, so a move into Bekaa would likely be accompanied by attacks to the west. It would bring the Israelis close to Beirut again.

This leaves Israel's right flank exposed, and that exposure is to Syria. The Israeli doctrine is that leaving Syrian airpower intact while operating in Lebanon is dangerous. Therefore, Israel must at least be considering using its air force to attack Syrian facilities, unless it gets ironclad assurances the Syrians will not intervene in any way. Conversations are going on between Egypt and Syria, and we suspect this is the subject. But Israel would not necessarily object to the opportunity of eliminating Syrian air power as part of its operation, or if Syria chooses, going even further.

At the same time, Israel does not intend to get bogged down in Lebanon again. It will want to go in, wreak havoc, withdraw. That means it will go deeper and faster, and be more devastating, than if it were planning a long-term occupation. It will go in to liquidate Hezbollah and then leave. True, this is no final solution, but for the Israelis, there are no final solutions.

Israeli forces are already in Lebanon. Its special forces are inside identifying targets for airstrikes. We expect numerous air attacks over the next 48 hours, as well as reports of firefights in southern Lebanon. We also expect more rocket attacks on Israel.

It will take several days to mount a full invasion of Lebanon. We would not expect major operations before the weekend at the earliest. If the rocket attacks are taking place, however, Israel might send several brigades to the Litani River almost immediately in order to move the rockets out of range of Haifa. Therefore, we would expect a rapid operation in the next 24-48 hours followed by a larger force later.

At this point, the only thing that can prevent this would be a major intervention by Syria with real guarantees that it would restrain Hezbollah and indications such operations are under way. Syria is the key to a peaceful resolution. Syria must calculate the relative risks, and we expect them to be unwilling to act decisively.

153 posted on 07/14/2006 6:57:37 PM PDT by Parrot_was_devastating
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To: SE Mom

here..thanks...needless to say, we have to go out for dinner... :-(


154 posted on 07/14/2006 6:57:58 PM PDT by sofaman ("Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." Franklin D. Roosevelt)
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To: RDTF

Of course he is- and he'll never get mine for that matter!

The point is though- he is an influential politician- ESPECIALLY with libs and Dems. People in Washington are going to have to start taking stands on this publicly pretty soon- his outspoken support of Israel is a good thing for that purpose.

Other than that...McCain? pppfffttt...


155 posted on 07/14/2006 6:58:09 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: bella1

Right. Uncle Ted as in "The Swimmer" Kennedy.


156 posted on 07/14/2006 6:58:10 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: RDTF
Today Col Hunt said on Dayside that he was praising the Isreali Ambassador to the UN and thinks we should adopt him...it was funny

I saw the ambassador and he was superb!

157 posted on 07/14/2006 6:58:12 PM PDT by daybreakcoming ("We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail")
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To: umgud; SE Mom
SE Mom: It makes me crazy when someone with whom I disagree makes a point that I agree with, so I now say "well it's about time he/she saw it my way!" LOL!

Jewish liberals are about to have their eyes opened very wide as to the character of those Democrat leaders with whom they have pledged their loyalties.

Most of them have forgotten - or never knew - the elder Kennedy championing a man named Hitler in WWII. I would think that level of hatred still exists deep in the hearts of some of our Congress critters - this will expose them.

Thank God for President Bush at this time in our lives. I firmly believe President Bush is meant to be here leading us with the angel in the whirlwind.
158 posted on 07/14/2006 6:58:58 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Chuck54

Idiot he is. Why does Bush have to do anything now. It is not our war right now. I hate that old bag of bones.


159 posted on 07/14/2006 6:59:09 PM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: All

04:55 Syria: Israel, U.S. trying to wipe out Arab resistance in every occupied land (Reuters)


160 posted on 07/14/2006 6:59:23 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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