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To: JOAT
Oh, so you don't believe that it was a center fuel tank? Are you not aware that this happened a few times prior to this accident? What exactly do you believe? And none of these questions are meant to be sarcastic or cynical at all.
6 posted on 07/13/2006 3:12:50 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468
Are you not aware that this happened a few times prior to this accident?

Can you tell me when and where that was?

7 posted on 07/13/2006 3:15:12 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: phoenix0468

Either a bomb or a missile brought that plane down according to eye-witness reports. And it wasn't friendly fire.
An administration who told us in another incident that a deeply depressed Egyptian pilot flew a airliner into the drink must think all americans are total morons.


11 posted on 07/13/2006 3:18:44 PM PDT by rogue rooster
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To: phoenix0468
"Are you not aware that this happened a few times prior to this accident?"

Oh please, tell us more about these prior accidents? I would love to hear about them.

Thank you

*I hear Crickets*

16 posted on 07/13/2006 3:33:57 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: phoenix0468

Other 747's sat on runways in Saudi Arabia, hotter tarmac, for longer times, and didn't blow up when taking off.

Prior accidents involved poor maintenance, one was a bomb placed by men dressed as 'maint crew' , on foreign soil.

Tests were unable to get the CWT to explode.
They had to run much higher current than the wires were designed to handle (meaning the current was never that high in the actual 747 CWT's) to get it to 'pop'.

(hook a small diameter wire up to both posts of your car battery. Same results)

Why were those airframes not grounded? Before or after?

Why do TWA and Boeing mechanics and pilots argue against the findings of the FBI (NTSB was herded by FBI)?


23 posted on 07/13/2006 4:52:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I will go down with this ship, and I won't put my hands up in surrender.)
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To: phoenix0468
Are you not aware that this happened a few times prior to this accident?

The commercial Boeing 747 aircraft began its career in the seventies. Since that time, "there has never been an in-flight explosion in any Boeing built airliner of Jet-A kerosene fuel vapor/air mixture in any tank, caused by mechanical failure," wrote Donaldson. Yet, in congressional testimony and statements to the media, the NTSB "cited the loss of an Air Force 707 and 3 KC135 air to air tanker aircraft to fuel tank explosions as examples of mishaps similar to TWA FL800," wrote Donaldson, who was a flight instructor and Air-Wing Safety Officer in charge of crash investigation for mishaps ashore and afloat. Officials at the Air Force's safety center, out West stated "there is no record of a 707 loss, and all three KC135s were fueled with JP4, a fuel as volatile as automobile gasoline."

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the NTSB told the media that a CWT explosion had caused the Philippines Air 737 crashed in 1990. Donaldson, however, noted that video and still photography taken after the Philippines Air 737 fire was extinguished, "show the Center Wing Tank did not explode." The plane's "undercarriage, wheels and center wing box (tank) were structurally sound enough to carry the load of engines and fuel ... under tractor tow," he noted. "Had the Center Wing Tank actually exploded in the manner the NTSB leadership suggests, the aircraft would have dropped on the ramp ..."

The 707 is an entirely different aircraft and the apparently spurious report of one CWT explosion (if it happened) is much more explicable as the 707 had live wire fuel tank sensors; the 747 does not. As stated, the KC135s (essentially flying gas stations) were carrying JP4... and it was not the CWT that exploded.

The Philippines Air 737 was to have carried the Philippines President on its next flight when it exploded on the tarmac... Some evidence points the explosion being caused by a bomb. Terrorists claimed credit for bombing the plane.

Not ONE Boeing 747 before or since TWA-800 has experienced an explosion in the CW. That includes millions of flights in 38 years.

32 posted on 07/13/2006 6:55:02 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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