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Don’t call us Asian (and club us with Muslims), say British Hindus
mumbai Mirror ^ | Wednesday, July 12, 2006 | PTI

Posted on 07/11/2006 9:22:18 PM PDT by Cronos

A study released in the House of Commons says 80 per cent of the respondents prefer to be called British Indian or British Hindus

PTI

London: Hindus in Britain do not want to be described as 'Asian' but would rather be called British Indian or British Hindus, a study released in the House of Commons on Tuesday said.

The report ‘Connecting British Hindus,’ launched by Ruth Kelly, Secretary of State for Communities, identified that some Hindus feel 'excluded' in the race dialogue and urged the government and public service providers to ensure they are included in work taken up to tackle racism in communities.

The survey showed that 80 per cent of the respondents prefer to be called British Indian or British Hindus, rather than be identified under the British Asian tag along with others from Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka.

The community also voiced concern over a “general assumption” that any brown-skinned Asian person was Muslim and said they feel “neglected, marginalised and misunderstood.”

The survey which interviewed about 800 Hindus of different backgrounds and ages, has been funded by the government and carried out by the Runnymede Trust, whose mandate is to promote a successful multi-ethnic Britain and the Hindu Forum of Britain.

“British Hindus have made a positive contribution to both the social, cultural and economic prosperity of our rich and diverse society. Many sections of those communities, including women, youth and older people, are often hard to reach,” Kelly said.

“All of us, including Central Government and public services, have a role to play in helping Britain move towards an inclusive society, based on mutual respect, tolerance and understanding between people of all faiths,” she said. 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: asians; britain; britainengland; england; india; indian; indians; londonistan; pakis; uk
I sympathise with them -- I wouldn't want to be clubbed with Muslimes. Pity that many people think a brown skin and a turban means a Muslime....
1 posted on 07/11/2006 9:22:23 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

I agree Indian people are not a problem to anyone. I have never heard of one climbing on a bus and goin BOOOOMM!!!!


2 posted on 07/11/2006 9:24:39 PM PDT by dinok
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To: Cronos
The community also voiced concern over a “general assumption” that any brown-skinned Asian person was Muslim

The British have been dealing with India for over 400 years I'm sure they have figured it out by now.

3 posted on 07/11/2006 9:27:48 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: dinok

You mean the Hare Krishnas don't cause all those bombings and beheadings? I thought they were right up there on that list, along with the Amish, the Quakers and that nice old Italian gent who lives up the street selling gelatini. I KNOW the poor, misunderstood Muslims don't cause any trouble /sarcasm.....


4 posted on 07/11/2006 9:35:00 PM PDT by Cronos (Islam is on the rampage -- where will the next bombing be?)
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To: Cronos
November 2005 - Ref 0545

http://www.jrf.org.uk/knowledge/findings/socialpolicy/0545.asp

Migration and social mobility: the life chances of Britain's minority ethnic communities


A study examining the class position in 2001 of those growing up in the 1960s-80s in England and Wales shows that family background remains important in achieving occupational success and avoiding unemployment, but that there are differences across ethnic groups. The study, by Lucinda Platt of the University of Essex, was based on the ONS Longitudinal Study.

It found:

Background remains important. The children of parents in higher social classes are more likely to end up in higher social classes themselves. This is the case even when taking account of individual educational achievement.
Most minority ethnic groups show high levels of children moving into a higher class than their parents. This is consistent with the idea that their parents suffered downward mobility on arrival in Britain.


For some minority groups (Caribbeans, Black Africans, Indians, Chinese and other) children with working-class parents are more likely to end up in professional/managerial class families than white British people from similar origins. This can be explained by educational achievement.


Pakistanis in the sample were the exception to this pattern. Despite their parents being very heavily concentrated in the working-class, they show lower levels of upward mobility than their white British counterparts, even when taking account of their educational levels.


Bangladeshis also show some of this disproportionate disadvantage. But, for them, more is explained through their backgrounds and educational achievements.
Having parents from a higher social class tends to protect children against ending up in an unemployed household in adulthood.


However, even when taking account of parents' social class, those from minority ethnic groups are at greater risk of unemployment than their white British counterparts from similar backgrounds. This is particularly true of Caribbeans.


Exploring differences between religious groups reveals that, controlling for their backgrounds and other characteristics, Jews and Hindus are more likely to end up in a higher social class than their Christian counterparts; Muslims and Sikhs have lower chances.


This is not just an effect of ethnicity (i.e. the fact that most Muslims are from the already disadvantaged Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities). Differences within the Indian ethnic group show that Hindus (and, to a lesser extent, Christians) are much more 'successful' than Sikhs and Muslims.






For the minority groups shown, those in the professional and managerial classes predominantly come from working-class backgrounds. By contrast, in the white non-migrant group, fewer than half of those in the professional/managerial classes have higher class backgrounds.

Figure 1 also illustrates the differences between minority groups. Far smaller proportions of Pakistanis and far higher proportions of Indians ended up in the professional/managerial classes.

These different patterns have been put down to differences in background across the groups, including not only parents' class position but also their economic assets and educational qualifications. However, the analysis showed that these do not account for differences between groups.

When controlling for background, most of the minority groups (Caribbeans, Black Africans, Indians, Chinese and other, and white migrants) were more likely to end up in the professional/managerial class than their white non-migrant counterparts. This is consistent with the arguments that migrants experience downward mobility on entering Britain and that they have particular aspirations for their children, which can be part of their rationale for migrating.

Factoring in the children's own educational achievement at 2001, shows that children's upward mobility is due to education. This suggests that migrant parents may have motivated their children to achieve through supporting them in gaining qualifications.

This picture was not entirely true, however, for the Bangladeshis in the sample and was completely different for the Pakistanis. The Pakistanis were less likely to end up in professional/managerial families even when taking their backgrounds and their own educational level into account. Thus both their class disadvantage and their disadvantage relative to other minority groups cannot be put down either to differences in background or to differences in educational achievement. Indeed, this group could expect to have better outcomes than the white non-migrants on the strength of their characteristics and backgrounds.

This was not true of the Bangladeshis, whose characteristics partly explain their class disadvantage. (The full report highlights important differences between these two groups as well as revealing some of the better known comparability between them in their generally disadvantaged position.)
5 posted on 07/11/2006 9:37:52 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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Its high time the Brits start calling us what we are ........."Indians"(or at least Hindus).


6 posted on 07/12/2006 4:30:30 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan

No need to call 'em Hindus. Just British-Indians, and that too, only if they wish to emphasise on their origin...


Most British Sikhs-, Christians-, Hindus-, and I daresay Muslims, -of Indian-origin , are a good lot in Britain.


7 posted on 07/12/2006 5:27:21 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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