Iraq to ask UN to end U.S. immunity after rape case

reuters ^ | July 11 06 | reuters

[churchillbuff]

Does this mean US troops would be subject to Sharia law in the fundamentalist Islamic state that has been established in the wake of our invasion? The Koran is the "fundamental source" of law in Iraq, according to their new fundamentalist constitution. Our invasion of Iraq has led to a new Islamic republic in the middle east. Do our own troops now have to submit themselves to Islamic law?

[MARKUSPRIME]

Dont worry the UN has no jurisdiction over the US and never will.

[sandbar]

Ok then, remove the troops.

[Lazamataz]

Our invasion of Iraq has led to a new Islamic republic in the middle east.

Christ, you're getting tiresome.

[Edgerunner]

To ask the UN to do ANYTHING is folly...

[Iscool]

"The Iraqi government must have a role."

You want a role??? Sure, I'll send you a box of Krispy Kremes, you morons...

[churchillbuff]

Christ, you're getting tiresome."""

If the truth bores you, that's not my problem.

[Triggerhippie]

Didn't those Islamic animals just mutilate and kill two people for the crime in question?

We could trade the rapist for the murderers and each punish them. We could each keep our own (we punish the rapist, they punish the murderers).

Or, since we killed some of them and they killed some of ours, we could just say we're even...

[Lazamataz]

Just go start voting Democrat and leave us alone.

[Dick Bachert]

After 65 years of watching the utopian elites at work behind the scenes, I've learned never to say "never," especially where the would-be locus of their sought-after one world government, the UN, is concerned.

[DustyMoment]

Iraq will ask the United Nations to end immunity from local law for U.S. troops, the human rights minister said on Monday, as the military named five soldiers charged in a rape-murder case that has outraged Iraqis. "We're very serious about this," she said, blaming a lack of enforcement of U.S. military law in the past for encouraging soldiers to commit crimes against Iraqi civilians, such as the alleged rape and murder of a teenager and killing of her family. "The Iraqi government must have a role."

Yeah, well, AMF. We won't let the door hit us in the butt on our way out, y'all be sure to call someone that gives a crap when the terrorists roll over your democracy beheading all of you, just before announcing they have taken control and introducing Sharia as the law of the land.

[foreshadowed at waco]

I think what it means is that the Iraqi PM has to present a certain image to his own people--that he will stand up for them (even if he loses, which he will since the USA can veto anything the UN tries to do on the security council) against even the hugely powerful USA...IMHO alot of the UN stuff is merely theatre...he gets to display his outrage and we get a public wrist slap...hopefully the soldiers that did this horrific crime (and I believe that one of them came forward and confessed to his CO after the execution of his fellow soldiers) will have a speedy trial and the military court's decision will be fair and satisfy all parties.

[Democracy In Iraq]

There is an Iraqi constitution, created by democratically elected representatives of the people of Iraq, and adopted by a vote of the people.

You can trivialize the "fundamental source" aspect of the constitution into making up a straw man argument if you wish; but before you go equating Iraq with Islamic dicatatorships, maybe you could give a little more thought to what we've accomplished.

At the very least, show some sort of intellectual grasp by quoting the part of the Iraqi constitution that says "this nation shall be an Islamo-fascist dictatorship so that we may declare the lives of 2500+ American service men and women to have been wasted."

[VeniVidiVici]

These people can't even try Saddam.

[Element187]

Uhm... ok, we leave Iraq right now then if they feel that way... They cannot expect our soldiers to be black mailed, or have this hanging over their heads while in combat.

[FlipWilson]

I wonder what the islamists are more upset about. Is it the fact that these troops broke the law or is it that they committed crimes the islamists regard as exclusively reserved to them?

[Jack Black]

If the truth bores you, that's not my problem.

But is it the truth, or is it just Churchillbuff spin, designed to piss people off?

Wouldn't the definition of a Fundamentalist Islamic state be one that used only the Koran for law, was ruled by Clerics, had no deviation from Sharia, and the like? That seems like a pretty good description of Iran, Afghanistan before the liberation, and now probably Sommalia. It seems like a very poor description of the new Iraq, which while not as fully westernized as, Poland or France, still has a functioning multi-party democratic form of government, a legal code seperate and apart from the Koran, does not include key elements of traditional Sharia law (such as stoning for adultery, hand chopping for theft, etc) and is struggling to find a way towards an accomidation of Islam with modernism.

Repeating a claim that is false or misleading while pretending it is unassailable "truth" is a favorite tactic of the left (vis: global warming) and is the very definition of tiresome.

[redgolum]

Ok then, remove the troops.

Yep

[redgolum]

Forgot the sarcasm tag.

[weegee]

Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

"(Reuters) to go to the U.N. Security Council, under whose mandate U.S.-led forces are in control of Iraq."

Actually we went into Iraq WITHOUT UN approval. And besides, the UN has their share of rapists and enslavers. Sort of like going to Bill Clinton for rape counselling.