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A recent Manhattan Institute poll of likely Republican voters left little doubt: 72 percent thought it was very or extremely important for Congress to come to grips with immigration this year, and though 39 percent believed the Senate package was amnesty, 75 percent still favored it. They want a solution that badly.
1 posted on 07/10/2006 2:54:44 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur

Tamar Jacoby: Open borders/servant class labor shill.

2 posted on 07/10/2006 3:02:47 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: sinkspur
Let's see how the two questions were worded. First, the push question (emphasis will be mine):

The President and many leaders in Congress are considering several different proposals for immigration reform. If Congress was considering legislation which would do the following to create an earned legalization program:

--Provide resources to greatly increase border security,
--Impose much tougher penalties on employers who hire illegal workers,
--Allow additional foreign workers to come to the United States to work for a temporary period,
--Create a system in which illegal immigrants could come forward and register, pay a fine, and receive a temporary worker permit,
--Provide these temporary workers with a multi-year path to earned citizenship, if they get to the end of the line and meet certain requirements like living crime free, learning English, paying taxes.

Note the use of positive language here. Also, there is no mention of other key and odious aspects of the Senate Bill, such as tax forgiveness for two of five years and allowing Social Security to be collected.

And now, let's see the other push question (emphasis will be mine):

13 Now, thinking about a DIFFERENT proposal for immigration reform…

This legislation would do only the following: Tighten the borders, Put tougher penalties on employers and workers who violate immigration laws, Create an expanded guest worker program that allows people to work here only temporarily, and Most current illegal immigrants would never be eligible for citizenship.

Note the negaive "only. And nowhere is the key difference between the two bills mentioned - enforcement first for the House version, enforcement someday for the Senate. I wonder how much the numbers would have changed if that had been part of the two survey questions? I think we all know the answer to that one. In reading this guy's columns, he's a shill for the pro-open borders interests.

3 posted on 07/10/2006 3:07:27 PM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: sinkspur

I also notice that the MI doesn't have the results of that poll on their website.


4 posted on 07/10/2006 3:09:11 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: sinkspur
What is clear is the only reason Hastert ordered the hearings before appointing members of the house conference committee is that support for the house bill has fallen in the house.

The house bill was passed last december. That was before the open border people got organized. I believe that a large number of house members that voted for the house bill, can't wait to vote against it.

If the house were firmly behind Hastert on illegal immigration he would not need to hold hearings to increase support for the house bill.

They are going to pass something very close to the Senate bill. It will not take much longer to get it done.

Once it is done Illegal Immigration will drop off the news cycle to disappear into the no longer covered stories bin?

Don't believe me?

I have just two words for you:

Out Sourcing


15 posted on 07/10/2006 3:39:41 PM PDT by Common Tator
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""Why would I say that? After all, the details on the hearings leave little doubt about the House's intentions: to look tough and – let's put it charitably – skeptical about immigration, both legal and illegal.""

Ah, Bolten-esque "momentum" building plugged with little lies like it's about "legal" immigration. Jacoby is one of the wage depression lobby's paid mouthpieces.

As for English as an official language, no, that was Bush/Bolten/Rove who first brought that up first. Thought that was enough of a sop for their "base", or how they think the "base" thinks.


16 posted on 07/10/2006 3:42:53 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: sinkspur

I heard Tamar Jacoby shilling for the Senate bill back in May on radio talk show. She was saying things I knew werent true, I dont know if she was naive or deliberate obfuscation but she ought to have known better.

Spreading the story that Senate bill was serious about enforcement and employer sanctions (the ol' 'comprehensive' line) - THE SAME WEEK the Senate turned down the Cornyn amendment that attempted to fix the Senate bill's fundamentally broken employer sanctions and right after we found out the Senate slipped in that amendment to ask mexico's permission to build any walls.

She cannot be taken seriously on this issue, very open borders ...


22 posted on 07/10/2006 4:04:57 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; A. Pole; hedgetrimmer; dennisw; JustPiper

ping


30 posted on 07/10/2006 5:02:37 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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