Most doom and gloomers think buying gold will save their soul.
Sorry to disappoint. I just figure that we will find it necessary to cause government to change its ways to solve the fiscal crisis that our kids and grand kids are headed for with no change from the status quo.
Only G'd can save man's soul, so even their you are far off the mark.
Excellent. Glad to hear you understand basic economics and are therefore not a goldbug.
I never said I was, in fact if you had been aware of my posting history as regards the lack of solution in gold standards and such you would have known better.
I think you meant former? Tax rates on investing have been reduced. Or hadn't you heard?
Why are we taxing investing at all? That which you tax you get less of, not more. Just reducing such is a temporary bandaid at best.
In fact the marginal rate on a dollar earned, regardless of how it may be aquired, effectively raises the value of doing anything other than earning that next one.
Production suffers both from loss of capital input, as well as incentive to work. That is especially true where there are a gazillion government subsidies and incentives providing reasons to avoid that that next dollar because the change in the tax bite is more than the perceived value of consuming and taking the day off, or life off in some all to plentiful cases.
Inflationary expectations make people less likely to invest? How do you figure?
Makes it more desirable to spend for consumption today rather than invest and grow for tomorrow's security and less than better deal.
Given that true gains can be obtained without inflation, inflation merely assures that those on the margin making a choice of spend more now rather than save/invest to do so later, choose to consume rather than build wealth for future consumption.
The proof lay in the what is happening to the utilization of income that lay in the personal income data.
How much of the negative savings rate is capital gains taxes paid?
None, as the savings rate is calculated from after tax income, (i.e. discretionary income).
Realized capital gains are a component of income, just as wages, dividends and interest are. The sum less taxes paid is the basis of discretionary income.
How much capital gains do Americans earn which are not included in the savings rate?
The savings rate is that faction of income left after taxes and spending for consumption. If it's negative, one is consuming in excess of their realized income and gains.
I suspect payroll taxes will increase and Social Security benefits will be reduced. The nation will survive. Privatizing would be even better, but I won't hold my breathe.
I never said I was, in fact if you had been aware of my posting history as regards the lack of solution in gold standards and such you would have known better.
Sorry, not familiar with your history. I keep running into gloomers who are goldbugs. Sorry to incorrectly paint you with that brush.
Why are we taxing investing at all? That which you tax you get less of, not more. Just reducing such is a temporary bandaid at best.
I'm on board. The best Cap Gains rate is 0%.
Makes it more desirable to spend for consumption today rather than invest and grow for tomorrow's security and less than better deal.
Inflation makes me want to invest more in stocks which raise their dividends.
None, as the savings rate is calculated from after tax income, (i.e. discretionary income).
Sorry. Capital gains taxes paid are subtracted from income when determining savings.
Realized capital gains are a component of income, just as wages, dividends and interest are. The sum less taxes paid is the basis of discretionary income.
Are you sure capital gains are included? I've read many articles that say they are not. For instance:
Disposable personal income, as the Commerce Department measures it, currently does not include the capital gains that come to individuals when they sell stocks or other assets. There has been a long debate as to whether or not these gains are properly considered income, since they do not reflect any earnings from additional output but only changes in prices. We do not need to challenge the Commerce Department's definitions, which seek to portray the real changes in the economy. But in calculating the financial surplus available for investment, it is clearly a mistake to omit capital gains. Not only are capital gains a source of much business financing; during the 1980s, they reached unprecedented levels.
The Myth of a Savings Shortage
If you have a more recent source which backs up your assertion, I'd appreciate a link.