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Guard recruit from South St. Paul has second thoughts about joining
Minneapolis StarTribune (aka The Red Star_ ^ | 7/10/06 | Randy Furst - Staff Reporter

Posted on 07/10/2006 9:56:57 AM PDT by MplsSteve

At 17, Leo Valle was dazzled by the money and other perks that came with service in the National Guard. So in March, the South St. Paul resident signed up to join.

He soon had second thoughts.

Valle's parents, who had given their written consent, didn't want him to go. His girlfriend was against it, too. When Valle saw a video about the rigors of basic training, he decided he had made the wrong decision. "I didn't want to do it anymore," he said recently. "They yell in your face and you take orders."

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


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To: MplsSteve

It's sort of a shame that those who have sacrificed in past wars now have to grow old with such Pieces of SHIITE to carry on and protect them.

We're doomed.


41 posted on 07/10/2006 10:39:39 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: MplsSteve
They yell in your face and you take orders."

Wait 'til he gets married. /sarc

42 posted on 07/10/2006 10:41:41 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: MplsSteve

Better off not having this POS in our Armed Forces. Would you want him "watching your six?"


43 posted on 07/10/2006 10:44:37 AM PDT by Spottys Spurs
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To: All

sounds like a little democrat in training to me.


44 posted on 07/10/2006 10:49:49 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous ( Master of Sinanju (Emeritus))
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To: proudofthesouth

That's a great story about your Dad...The rules and rights of trainees have changed over they years. This kid would be a time draining cancer on the NCOs. It's better to just tear up the contract.


45 posted on 07/10/2006 10:50:34 AM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: OmahaFields

3706 BMTS 1983 Flt 209, SST McIntyre and Tsgt Euriegas - Best time of my life :) /s


46 posted on 07/10/2006 10:50:42 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: MplsSteve

He should be classified as a deserter. They should drag his butt off to basic, and after recycling him 3 or 4 times, he should receive a less than honorable discharge.


47 posted on 07/10/2006 10:51:44 AM PDT by JavaTheHutt ( Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush - DUBYA!!!!!)
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To: mystery-ak
btw..I think 17yo is too young to make a decision like this.

I signed up at 17, parents signed off the paper work and my dad inducted me in on 25 MAR 03 (He was an Army Officer)

Headlines read in the daily paper, Army loses, Air Force gains - My dad was retiring right after I solemnly swore :)

48 posted on 07/10/2006 10:53:24 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: mystery-ak
I think 17yo is too young to make a decision like this.

one of the toughest soldiers I ever met while I was in service had to get parental permission to enlist, because SHE joined at 17 also.

49 posted on 07/10/2006 10:54:21 AM PDT by JavaTheHutt ( Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush - DUBYA!!!!!)
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To: OmahaFields
I hope all that criticize this guy have already been to boot camp...

basic training was a fun experience for me. this little wuss woould have been the center of attention in my basic training. Everyone would be lined up waiting for their turn to kick the crap out of him.

50 posted on 07/10/2006 10:58:22 AM PDT by JavaTheHutt ( Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush - DUBYA!!!!!)
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To: Obadiah
"To be honest, the kid needs to go home to Mommy and grow up. Sheesh."

I was a long haired Pu**y until my first day at MCRD San Diego at the age of seventeen. If I could do it in the Corps, this little panty waste should at least try to make it through Nat'l Guard basic.
51 posted on 07/10/2006 10:58:51 AM PDT by GunnyHartman (The DNC, misunderestimating Dubya's strategery since 2000.)
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To: angelsonmyside
ROTF, some of the stories my son and his soon to be bride, have told me about both of their experiences in boot camp have had me in stitches. Both of them had me in tears about some of the times they got called on the carpet so to speak, lol.

They were in boot camp together? Co-ed boot camp? Things sure have changed.

52 posted on 07/10/2006 11:02:03 AM PDT by JavaTheHutt ( Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush - DUBYA!!!!!)
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To: JavaTheHutt

I ran raw recruits through basic training at Ft. Knox Kentucky during the Viet Nam era. All draftees, and nobody wanted to be there, including yours truly. All we had to say was that we were going to teach them how to save their collective a**es when they went to war, and we always had 100% participation. In fact, I cannot recall one slacker in basic, and they were all eyes and ears from day 1. It always amazed me how that worked.


53 posted on 07/10/2006 11:02:44 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: GunnyHartman

Nat'l Guard basic.


NG recruits go through basic at Army bases, the same as reg Army....


54 posted on 07/10/2006 11:04:39 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: MplsSteve

>>"They yell in your face and you take orders."<<

Just like working at a fast food place.


55 posted on 07/10/2006 11:04:55 AM PDT by 1L
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To: OmahaFields
Yep, joined the Marine Corps at 17. Part of the purpose of boot camp is to weed out those who lack mental toughness, so letting him out before wasting More money is a good thing.
56 posted on 07/10/2006 11:07:39 AM PDT by MrEdd (Bad spellers of the world - UNTIE!,)
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To: OmahaFields

Yep, C-206, 1990, Orlando FL. And yes, it sucked. But I had made a commitment that I wasn't ready to back out of just because I had to exercise on two hours of sleep every day. This little pussy should look before he leaps.


57 posted on 07/10/2006 11:09:56 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: MplsSteve

I'm in the Guard... You have to be pretty hard up for the money to dazzle you.


58 posted on 07/10/2006 11:10:05 AM PDT by samson1097
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To: Obadiah

" But father, I don't want to join the Guard; I just want to siiiiing!!


59 posted on 07/10/2006 11:12:43 AM PDT by postalx
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To: MplsSteve

Wow. Interesting story. Leo and his parents bear the full responsibility here. But from what is written in the article, the military will probably let him out.


60 posted on 07/10/2006 11:15:34 AM PDT by new cruelty
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