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Up to 10 accused of assault of girl, 11 (Junior college football players)
The Fresno Bee ^ | 7-10-06 | Tim Eberly

Posted on 07/10/2006 6:11:02 AM PDT by Enterprise

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To: the_daug

As I understand it, there was one encounter that was "consensual." Then, others took advantage of her and she was raped vaginally and anally. There was some vaginal bleeding during the hospital examination.


41 posted on 07/10/2006 7:14:56 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise
"She was like, 'Nuh-uh, I'm 17, fitting to be 18 in a month or two,'" Smith said.

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In the South, folks idiomatically say, "fixin' to", when referring to a future action. Is this "fittin to"...

California-speak?

Ebonics?

A sub-normal mentality symptom?

And ...is it the actual words of the victim -- or verbal coloration by "Smith"?

Also, a bunch of "teenagers" gave up "their" female companion to a bunch of college students -- without a protest? Or was that the victim's choice -- at first...?

Very strange...

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Methinks there is much more to this story...

FWIW, when I went back to the Fresno Bee to check facts, it required a login. Is the first view free?

42 posted on 07/10/2006 7:20:35 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: r9etb
When you couple that with a bunch of guys thinking with their little heads, you get something like this.
I've got a 10 year old. My home is frequently inundated with 9, 10, 11, and 12 year olds; some "developed" early, some not.
If they can't tell the difference, I'll stand by me comments.
We are not talking about 14yr - 17yr"mix-ups here.

Cordially,
GE
43 posted on 07/10/2006 7:21:24 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: r9etb
stand by me MY
OOPS!
44 posted on 07/10/2006 7:22:38 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: OmahaFields

Jealousy?


45 posted on 07/10/2006 7:25:30 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: Enterprise
Either that or hire them as Airport Security Screeners.

they could probably get a job working for the UN too.
46 posted on 07/10/2006 7:26:19 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Enterprise

Let me see, only 11 and already a runaway from a group home?
That alone says a bunch. Trouble with a capital T.


47 posted on 07/10/2006 7:27:21 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Enterprise

That answers half the equation. How did I know before even reading your post? Rhetorical question of course.


48 posted on 07/10/2006 7:29:39 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: GrandEagle

You are generally correct. However, when I was around 18 there was a young girl of 12 in our church who REALLY looked like she was 20. And a stunning 20. Visiting young men had to be warned off her in advance.

Lots of the posts here seem to assume that what happened would have been okay if she weren't so young. It's immoral and illegal to rape anyone, regardless of age.

(Although the age makes it much worse.)


49 posted on 07/10/2006 7:41:16 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: FearlessFreep

What the heck is that supposed to mean?


50 posted on 07/10/2006 7:44:02 AM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman (Proud supporter of our Troops and President GW!!!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That seems like such a fair punishment.
susie


51 posted on 07/10/2006 7:48:20 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Red Badger

:-)


52 posted on 07/10/2006 7:48:36 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: Enterprise

"The victim was a white girl with blond hair" - according to a witness who's daughter was friends with the girl.

You can be assured that the liberal news media will not say a damn word about this.


53 posted on 07/10/2006 7:49:52 AM PDT by sasafras (("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom)
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To: r9etb

Is it really normal behavior for guys to get together and have sex with someone in a group?
susie


54 posted on 07/10/2006 7:52:17 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: GrandEagle
stand by me MY ...OOPS!

I just figured you were getting all piratey on me .... AAAaaaaaaaaaarrrrrhhhhhh! ;-)

I, too, have lots of similarly-aged kids running around my place, and in the neighborhood. And some of them really can look a lot older than 11. They're good kids, though, and that keeps them "looking their age" -- despite their bodies, not because of them.

That's what's different from the kids we know, and this particular girl. According to the article, she was apparently quite aggressive in wanting to seem older than she really is (as per the woman quoted in the article). And, when you couple a girl like that with a guy who's thinking with his dick, you're bound to have problems.

I have no doubt that she had met, and been having sex with one of those guys for some time... and that her real problem came when he invited 9 of his closest friends over for "some fun."

I feel very sorry for this kid. This kind of activity doesn't start in a vacuum. Her life looks to have been screwed up from the start. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that one or more of her mom's "boyfriends" had been abusing her from an early age.

And I also think the bastards who gang-banged her ought to be put away for a very long time.

55 posted on 07/10/2006 7:59:26 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Enterprise
The story is terrible if true but I want to know who wrote it. It says when Police was called . Great grammar!
56 posted on 07/10/2006 8:01:15 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Restorer
Lots of the posts here seem to assume that what happened would have been okay if she weren't so young. It's immoral and illegal to rape anyone, regardless of age.
Absolutely!!!!
I was under the impression that this was supposedly a mutual consent thing which, while still immoral IMHO, age would make a tremendous legal difference.

Cordially,
GE
57 posted on 07/10/2006 8:05:14 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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Is it really normal behavior for guys to get together and have sex with someone in a group?

It apparently happens -- a google search on "gang-bang" would no doubt turn up thousands of hits. I wouldn't call it "normal," though.

From a purely clinical perspective, I honestly don't know what the attraction would be in treating a woman like a communal piece of meat.

58 posted on 07/10/2006 8:06:33 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Enterprise
Yeah, that is the sad thing. It is a hard cycle to break.

It's always my hope that kids get addicted to school, studying, even sports or an active lifestyle.

This one gal that I mentioned meeting at the Houston hotel; I had to deceive her in telling her I was gay after she came onto me. So sad. She made it clear that she didn't like gay guys.

59 posted on 07/10/2006 8:13:02 AM PDT by chris_ab
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To: TXnMA

The first view is free I guess. But I linked a local news chanel site just in case.


60 posted on 07/10/2006 8:15:49 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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