No WAY, dude!!!
Posted on 07/09/2006 10:26:12 AM PDT by mcvey
It is clear who really runs this country and it ain't a bunch of people who are busy filling their closets full of shoes and little suits for work. Or the pierced up tatooed girls in their protest garb. Oh I know flame away . . . but I get so sick of this ripping on men and specifically white men.
Drives me nuts. I checked the postings three times, not two, and still got burned. How did I miss that?
As a senior professor in one of the subjects you mentioned, I have to agree.
Historians are, nowdays, fundamentally writing long polemics and propaganda.
Again, there are studies which show how very different history is when it is written by a non-liberal.
McVey
Sure women enter college more and are better studiers, hence having a higher GPA then men. But getting better grades doesnt make somebody a better leader, thinker etc. Not to mention vastly more amounts of men enter the trades such as construction, car repair, and other disciplines.
In talking to my wife, who's a teacher and has talked about how women-heavy that profession is, I've asked her where the big push is to get men into teaching like there is to get women into engineering.
Same with my mechanical engineering degree. Let's see the liberal arts and philosophy fags get through sophomore year on a half-load of engineering courses. It would kill those pseudo-intellectuals in less than two months. As for the business majors, I took their junior 300 level courses for general ed credit and was not impressed one bit with what they were getting for their money.
Yes, I have a good number-crunching background myself and know that people enter my profession to avoid the numbers.
Heinlein said something like a person who can't do math is illiterate (and his wife was a good mathematician.)
At an NSF workshop a couple of years ago, one of their heads said that they look for proposals that are designed to increase participation by underrepresented groups in various fields. The example he used was women in engineering and men in education. I was stunned.
Do you know why men make more money than women? Because they HAVE TO. Society doesn't look down on women who spend their whole lives hanging out working part-time or no-time while spending daddy's money or govt. money before moving on to a husband's money. A guy is total garbage for doing anything of the sort.
No WAY, dude!!!
Okay, we've been over this ground before.
The real problem is that college is a joke and lots of guys are unwilling to sit through 4-5 years of a joke.
They figure out ways to get going on their lives and careers, getting educated through alternate means along the way (online etc.) if they need it.
College today offers basically nothing that a motivated, reasonably self-disciplined person can't accomplish without several years of "butt tax" and many thousands of dollars.
Men are getting good jobs in IT, for example, and letting the company give them tuition assistance for taking courses as a perk.
With technology making it easier and easier to be an entrepreneur, more and more men set out to make their own way, for which they rightly conclude they don't need a traditional college education.
Men also have figured out that a smart, hard-working guy can climb the corporate ladder just as easily without a college degree, and be 4-5 years ahead of those who parked their butts at the Big U. For example, I know a guy who went to work at Target after high school. Took courses along the way that pertained to his job. Became store manager. Then moved up to headquarters and now has a really nice career.
The traditional college "education" and experience has made itself mostly irrelevant to the kinds of paths many men today want to take.
Don't worry about it.
No sweat. Probably deserved to be posted again.
I really like too how you mention the education offered to men along the way that fits more closely with their career paths and that is offered generally either by employers or the men spend their own money investing in a degree earned at night.
Also men in the military are getting educated through incentives offered in the forces. This is also why it is so sick and sad that universities are trying to push the ROTC off campuses. This just goes to show they make it so male unfriendly and overly female friendly in atmosphere and support.
Yes, you can give yourself a sound education if you're Benjamin Franklin or Abraham Lincoln. Yes, you can go through many ill designed college curricula (aka babysitting) without learning anything of value. But you would be foolish to eschew a fine education at one of our premier institutions if it were available to you and you were willing to work hard at it.
I hire architecture school graduates quite often and the men are screwballs generally and the women seem to have more on the ball. The problem is that the women feel that they feel they are entitled to do whatever they want without any managing from the Man.
I've known women with communications degrees, and I don't really ever feel like communicating with them for more than a couple of seconds.
Another thing I thought of is how a lot of these men actually end up marrying much younger than the women of their same age group. The next thing you know all these women who go to college or not and into the work world depend upon marriage at some point (in the back or front of their mind) to insure their financial stability (with few exceptions, no matter how much they make or how high up their position).
Thus they do more overspending with the thought that eventually a man will come along and will make it all better and take away some of the stress.
Men don't think like this.
Next thing you know all those men these women planned on marrying are married to younger women and starting families. While the women wake up in their early thirties (if they are lucky) or later and get very desperate because all the 'good' men are taken (usually the ones available are the slackers who never really grew up) and they are losing their youthful looks.
Behind the scenes many of these women may look like they have it all together, but they are terrified and going into their 40s and 50s knowing they fu--ed up, if they are smart. But now the finances are all up to them, just when their energy is starting to wane. At some point many surrender but not without having gone through great pain and regret behind the scenes.
This might be true but what can you do with a major in "Gracious Living"?
College degrees in soft subjects have less and less status every year.
A girl with a soft subject degree answers only one question; I went to college and found a husband or I went to college and failed to find a husband.
College anymore means spending 100 grand and up on four years of partying interspersed with soft Marxist indoctrination and a little lesbian playtime.
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