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American Cancer Society catches the Surgeon General in an outright lie...
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | July 1, 2006

Posted on 07/09/2006 10:11:30 AM PDT by SheLion

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To: hubbubhubbub
What is he a General of?

Surgery.

Only the Surgeon General can rightfully tell Col. Potter to shaddup.


41 posted on 07/09/2006 11:10:35 AM PDT by motzman (Go-Go Mets!)
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To: RandallFlagg

Sho me one that says a person died from smoking first hand.


42 posted on 07/09/2006 11:11:47 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: SheLion

Here we go again. They gotta have a "cause" no matter how stupid it is. I was raised in a home where my parents smoked, our children (both non-smokers) were raised in a home where we smoked and I hate to tell these tobacco "Carrie Nations" of today, but my own grandkids who all live in non-smoking homes have more respiratory problems than we or our children did. Figure that one out. This is a sham, a shake-down but what REALLY bugs me is the gooberment infringing on the rights of business owners......dictating what they can and cannot do in their establishments! Wake up people......this is serious....gooberment here, there and everywhere in peoples private lives. My Hub firmly believes (after dealing with different environmental groups through some new construction at his office), they'll be telling us exactly how to set our thermostats, if we can cut trees on our own property and God know what else in the very near future. It's already happening in some parts of the country now. ENOUGH intrustion already and damn the politicians who cater and pander to these groups.......this JUNK SCIENCE crowd!


43 posted on 07/09/2006 11:13:14 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
A "conservative" that buys into the liberal dogma. Interesting.

WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION BURIES SECOND-HAND SMOKE STUDY

Fact: The study found no statistically significant risk existed for non-smokers who either lived or worked with smokers.

Interesting indeed. A "conservative" who quotes a U.N. Study (The world Health Organization) to prove that smoking is A-OK. (Great source, Comrade Citizen!)

Make no mistake, I'm all in favor of smokers doing what they do. I just want them to do it quicker and with no additional costs to taxpayers.

44 posted on 07/09/2006 11:14:01 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the ping.

So, the scourgeon general's a fibbin'....

Who woulda thunk it?


45 posted on 07/09/2006 11:18:31 AM PDT by 383rr ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: RandallFlagg

No one talked about murder, so don't be a drama queen.

Smoking poison-laced cigarettes would be entirely voluntary. It would merely be a way to further enhance the "bad boy" image and make cigarettes more entertaining... in a Russian Roulette sorta way.


46 posted on 07/09/2006 11:18:42 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: KarlInOhio
If all smokers were to stop today and live long healthy lives, Social Security and corporate pension plans would collapse many years earlier because their payment schedules are based on a certain percentage of the population dying early.

That is another good point. Entirely in keeping with the 'Modest Proposal' of the poison-laced brand of smokes.

47 posted on 07/09/2006 11:20:31 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: SheLion

Why would anyone assume smoke gnatzies would let something as trivial as truth interfere with their socialist takeover of peoples lives?


48 posted on 07/09/2006 11:20:44 AM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: Triggerhippie
If you want to kill yourself that's fine, but don't saddle the rest of us with your medical bills.

The risks of smoking are greatly exaggerated

The risks of smoking are greatly exaggerated. So are the costs.

An in-depth analysis of 400,000 U.S. smoking-related deaths by National Institute of Health mathematician Rosalind Marimont and senior fellow in constitutional studies at the Cato Institute Robert Levy identified a disturbing number of flaws in the methodology used to estimate these deaths. Incorrectly classifying some diseases as smoking-related and choosing the wrong standard of comparison each overstated deaths by more than 65 per cent.

Failure to control for confounding variables such as diet and exercise turned estimates more into a computerized shell game than reliable estimates of deaths.

Marimont and Levy also found no adjustments were made to the costs of smoking resulting from the benefits of smoking -- reduced Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease, less obesity, depression and breast cancer.

If it were possible to estimate 45,000 smoking-related Canadian deaths as some health activists imagine -- and Marimont, Levy and other respected researchers think it is not -- then applying an identical methodology to other lifestyle choices would yield 57,000 Canadian deaths due to lack of exercise and 73,000 Canadian deaths blamed on poor diets.

49 posted on 07/09/2006 11:21:18 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Triggerhippie

The point is that it was buried because it did NOT back their view. Or yours. Face it, you have more in common with the UN than I do.


50 posted on 07/09/2006 11:23:31 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Triggerhippie

Gee, last time I paid my insurance, the bill was in my name, and the check from my account.

Wow, I must be just mailing these little slips of paper for fun!

Yeah, that's the ticket!


51 posted on 07/09/2006 11:23:58 AM PDT by 383rr ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: SheLion

OK it's not a moral issue. It's ok to smoke. I used to smoke two packs a day. I quit cold urkey when I was 28 because I got to the point I'd rather smoke than eat, I loved it. It was enjoyable. People would say, "Do you feel better?" And I'd say, "Hail no." I felt awful for months, but I knnew it was gonna kill me cos I was hacking and coughing. After quitting I got acne, gained weight, felt awful.

Now, when I am in a smoking hotel room, it smells awful. I hate being around it. Smokers don't really give a hoot if they are bothering people. The smoke makes nonsmokers' hair and clothes stink. Smokers don't care for the most part and are inconsiderate. That's why ya gotta make a law.


52 posted on 07/09/2006 11:24:28 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Triggerhippie; RandallFlagg
Smoking poison-laced cigarettes would be entirely voluntary.

Backpeddaling from the heat? That qualifier was NOT in your post.

53 posted on 07/09/2006 11:25:55 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Triggerhippie
I'm in favor of 1 in 1000 cigarettes being laced with poison.

What a vile sentiment.......let alone what a vile statement to make.

And for your information, even the Congressional Research Service, at the request of Henry Waxman, someone nearly as vile as you in his hatred of smokers, determined that smokers pay MORE into the government than they ever take out.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, bucko.

54 posted on 07/09/2006 11:28:36 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: DJ MacWoW

That qualifier was a no-brainer from square one, as smoking is entirely voluntary anyway.

My 'Modest Proposal' merely makes smoking more entertaining.


55 posted on 07/09/2006 11:30:03 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Gabz

Aw, heck Gabz, what do you expect from these people.
Just showing their colors, that's all.


56 posted on 07/09/2006 11:30:27 AM PDT by 383rr ((those who choose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: Gabz

It's not vile. It's entertainment.

No one would be forced to smoke. Think of it as expediting the outcome.


57 posted on 07/09/2006 11:31:42 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Triggerhippie
Your post is on the mark, for all smoking AND breathing of secondhand smoke is a form of Russian Roulette. With secondhand smoke, the chances are less than with firsthand smoke. Whoopee. With secondhand smoke, of course, the situation is compounded by the fact that someone is coercing you into the game.

Same with mammograms. First they said it was only those old mammogram machines in Canada that were actually causing breast cancer. Better change those age recommendations! Very recently, it has been said that mammograms increase the risk of cancer in those who are genetically predisposed. OK . . .

As I said, Russain Roulette.

58 posted on 07/09/2006 11:33:58 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: yldstrk

Aren't you just the sweetest little old thang????????


59 posted on 07/09/2006 11:34:21 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Triggerhippie
That qualifier was a no-brainer from square one, as smoking is entirely voluntary anyway.

Not true, But I'm sure that doesn't bother you. Your interest is solely controlling someone elses behaviour. And I see you live in Florida where euthanasia for profit is big. Why not add murder for entertainment.

60 posted on 07/09/2006 11:35:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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