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Syndicate Will Look Into Alleged Coulter Plagiarism On Its Own
Editor and Publisher ^ | July 6 06 | Editor and Publisher

Posted on 07/06/2006 9:36:05 PM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: Anti-Bubba182
I love Ann. Some people can't handle truth without the treacle.

A sharp wit, scholar's discipline...and a pleasure to see.

I wonder, though, if she's genetic Marfan's?? Body just like my wife, who also has the condition.

41 posted on 07/06/2006 10:22:12 PM PDT by dasboot
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To: churchillbuff

I think this is all a publicity stunt to sell the plagarism-detecting software mentioned in the E&P article.


42 posted on 07/06/2006 10:22:37 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: South40
Why? We are conservatives. If a bunch of liberals did it, if they all did it, IT IS STILL NOT OK. That's a lame LIBERAL style arguement. I don't care what Lawrence Tribe did, or any of these other people. I don't recommend or buy their books. I do buy Coulters books. Standards are standards. If it was inadvertant she should apologize and promise to credit the authors w/ footnotes in the next edition. If it's bogus she should refute the charges.

From what I've seen the charges are pretty thin on the face of them. One was not plagerism, and the other was the topic from a list, which I'm not sure deserves crediting.

43 posted on 07/06/2006 10:24:07 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Energy Alley

So there is no prejudice against Christians and MM is the same as Ann. How far up your A$$ is your head? Are you lost? This aint DU.


44 posted on 07/06/2006 10:40:51 PM PDT by BruceysMom (.I'm hot & not in a good way, menopause ain't for sissies.)
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To: Energy Alley

I see you are already gone. You libs just can't hide who you are.


45 posted on 07/06/2006 10:43:57 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: iowamark
iowamark said: "Certainly a prolifer would not represent a pre-abort passage as her own views."

That's what caught my attention.

Mis-attribution or missing attribution are neither of them plagiarism if it is clear that the ideas of others are being described.

That Ann would not have any completely original pro-abortion ideas is hardly surprising.

46 posted on 07/06/2006 10:44:02 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: JennysCool

OHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!She plagiarized her own writing,her own columns,her own original thought....How could she do this????????Obviously,the libs want her barred from ever writing another piece of material again........[So,she can't steal her own work.Remember,libs are here to help not hurt]Just like the nazis helped the jews to a better place!!!!!!


47 posted on 07/06/2006 11:05:02 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: William Tell; All; Right Wing Professor
Go directly to the source for the allegations of plagiarism.

Check here and here too for the examples.

Hat tip BTW to FReeper and anti-Coulter-type Right Wing Professor...although I think many of the examples given in the sources above are too pedantic and/or childish for his normal standards. The overwhelming majority of the plagiarized "examples" are one- or two-sentence factoids which would be hard to convey succinctly except by coming close to the original language anyway.

(Full Disclosure: many of his own substantive comments on problems with Ann's science in Godless are as accurate as a laser-guided missle, with the detonation of a Trident...check his own blog, or Darwin Central for details. Darwin Central's comment about the starfish eyes was especially choice...and it brought to mind the Halibut which I just ate while vacationing in Alaska.)

Cheers!

48 posted on 07/06/2006 11:06:20 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: gcruse

Was the Chronicle passage from her own column? (Hope so, though I somehow doubt she has a column in the Chronicle...)


49 posted on 07/06/2006 11:08:24 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: al baby

There's little excuse for being sloppy with attributions. That said, I'm sure that few of her sources will object to just an addendum in future editions.


50 posted on 07/06/2006 11:25:17 PM PDT by VanShuyten (One of my hungry and forebearing friends was sounding in the bows just before me.)
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To: grey_whiskers

RWP appears to have been banned or suspended, so thanks for pointing out his blog. I've found his comments mostly interesting and insightful over the years, so I hope I'm wrong about his being gone. RWPs atheism is a magnet for the religious radicals who seem to have a lot of influence on setting the 'tone' at FR in the past couple of years.

Gack.


51 posted on 07/07/2006 12:12:03 AM PDT by unsycophant
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To: unsycophant; grey_whiskers
I'm wrong about his being gone

You are not. RWP is gone.

52 posted on 07/07/2006 12:25:07 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: churchillbuff

BFD

Whoop-dee-dee!


53 posted on 07/07/2006 12:34:48 AM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (LIBS = Lewd Insane Babbling Scum)
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To: Jack Black
Why? We are conservatives. If a bunch of liberals did it, if they all did it, IT IS STILL NOT OK.

I never said it was OK. The point was I've yet to see a single liberal condemn Churchill, Tribe, Franken or Biden.

I don't condone plagiarism by anyone. But the left is hypocritical for attacking Coulter while giving the above mentioned libs a pass.

54 posted on 07/07/2006 12:36:17 AM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: churchillbuff
I tune out anything the left says about her because they're totally insane. In her book "Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right" there were a couple of minor numerical errors in the footnotes to which even she admits occurred. But according to the left, this alone discredits the entire book.

Never mind that a leftist scumbag can scrawl a 100% fact free book and they take all of it as gospel.

55 posted on 07/07/2006 12:45:40 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Mike Darancette
She used the word "the" which has already been used by multiple other authors.

You are deliberately underplaying the extent of her obvious plagiarism. I happen to know for a fact that she also plagiarized rush Limbaugh's first book there were over 200 instances of ann using commas in her book 12 years after rush Limbaugh did! Its just so blatant that I see no other recourse except for her publishing company to issue a full refund to everyone that bought godless and ban anne from ever typing another word for a book or column again (i really hope the readers of fr are sophisticated enough that i don't need to add a sarcasm tag

56 posted on 07/07/2006 12:48:30 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: grey_whiskers

Tell you what, just based upon a quick read of both sources I have to say I'm not about to call this plagiarism. This isn't passing someone else's work off as your own. What she MIGHT (and I emphasize, MIGHT) have done is see these passages or lists or works and utilize the facts in them, changing the language of the lists or works to her own.

That is not plagiarism. You can't plagiarize facts.

If she had issues with word-for-word copying, and the copying was purely fictional or opinion writing, I might have concerns. But this is like MLB saying that the newspapers can't publish box scores without paying them royalties. They're hyperextending copyright, and here, the folks who want to claim plagiarism are hyperextending the concept. Students who use encyclopedias or Cliff Notes' summaries to help prepare research papers, but change the wording to reflect their own work, retaining the facts, would have problems under this uberanal definition.

Now, I'm all for busting her if she did copy line-by-line and it was NOT a situation where she was merely stating facts. But so far, what I've seen doesn't show that.


57 posted on 07/07/2006 1:00:03 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: denydenydeny; gcruse
*gasp* 25 and 24 word strings!

Yes, 25 words!!

The following is 25 words:

CEO of iParadigms, told The Post that one 25-word passage from the "Godless" chapter titled "The Holiest Sacrament: Abortion" appears to have been lifted

25 words usually is not even a sentence.

This is ludicrous.

58 posted on 07/07/2006 1:51:51 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: grey_whiskers

Here is your smoking gun.

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Lists

Following are the fifteen items from Coulter's list (Chapter 7, Page 197) side-by-side with those that appear at the Illinois Right To Life Committee's website:

Illinois Right To Life: Spinal cord injury repair (using stem cells from nasal and sinus regions)

Coulter: Repairing spinal cord injuries by using stem cells from nasal and sinus regions.

Illinois Right To Life: Complete reversal of juvenile diabetes in mice using adult spleen cells

Coulter: Completely reversing Type 1 diabetes in mice using adult spleen cells

Illinois Right To Life: Crohn’s Disease put into remission (using patient’s blood stem cells)

Coulter: Putting Crohn's disease into remission with the patient's own blood stem cells

Illinois Right To Life: Lupus put into remission (using stem cells from patient’s bloodstream)

Coulter: Putting lupus into remission using stem cells from the patient's bloodstream

Illinois Right To Life: Repair heart muscle in cases of congestive heart failure (using stem cells from bone marrow)

Coulter: Repairing the heart muscles in patients with congestive heart failure using adult stem cells from bone marrow.

Illinois Right To Life: Repair heart attack damage (using the patient’s own blood stem cells)

Coulter: Repairing heart attack damage with the patient’s own blood stem cells

Illinois Right To Life: Restore bone marrow in cancer patients (using stem cells from umbilical cord blood)

Coulter: Restoring bone marrow in cancer patients using stem cells from umbilical cord blood.

Illinois Right To Life: Restore weak heart muscles (using immature skeletal muscle cells)

Coulter: Restoring weak heart muscles using immature skeletal muscle cells

Illinois Right To Life: Put leukemia into remission (using umbilical cord blood)

Coulter: Putting leukemia into remission using umbilical cord blood

Illinois Right To Life: Heal bone fractures (using bone marrow cells)

Coulter: Healing bone fractures with bone marrow cells.

Illinois Right To Life: Restore a blind man’s sight (using an ocular surface stem-cell transplant & a cornea transplant)

Coulter: Restoring sight in blind people using an ocular surface stem-cell transplant and a cornea transplant

Illinois Right To Life: Treat urinary incontinence (using under arm muscle stem cells)

Coulter: Treating urinary incontinence using stem cells from underarm muscle

Illinois Right To Life: Reverse severe combined immunodeficiency (SCID) (using genetically modified adult stem cells)

Coulter: Reversing severe combined immunodeficiency (SCID) with genetically modified adult cells.

Illinois Right To Life: Restore blood circulation in legs (using bone marrow stem cells)

Coulter: Restoring blood circulation in legs with bone marrow stem cells.

Illinois Right To Life: Treat sickle-cell anemia (using stem cells from unbilical cord blood)

Coulter: Treating sickle-cell anemia using stem cells from umbilical cord blood.

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What a joke. How can one plagarize a list?

Is she supposed to change the diseases treated and source of stem cells?


59 posted on 07/07/2006 2:03:21 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: grey_whiskers
The overwhelming majority of the plagiarized "examples" are one- or two-sentence factoids which would be hard to convey succinctly except by coming close to the original language anyway.

Exactly. Well said.

many of his own substantive comments on problems with Ann's science in Godless are as accurate as a laser-guided missle

Now you are in the realm of self deception/delusion.

60 posted on 07/07/2006 2:05:19 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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